Okay, we haven't used this feat much, but stuff came up today and I'd like to get learned response.

Cloak & Dagger duo tried to use Sidestep while starting in hindering terrain and locked up with somebody. After the breakaway roll, is that 4 movement granted by the card halved because of coming out of hindering terrain? Can they carry someone while making that move? If so, do they still get the -2 to their movement, and thus making only a 2 square movement allowed? What if they do both? Is it halved then minus 2, making it impossible to move, or is the 4 square movement granted by the card in between duo attacks unaffected by all these modifiers?

Basically the character can move as far as its speed value lets it, but at most 4 squares. So when starting in hindering terrain, you halve the Speed value as normal - if it is less than 4 then that is the most you can move.

The underlined section makes me think you cannot use the Carry ability when using Sidestep, as the Sidestep movement is the result of using a feat, not being given an action. I could be wrong though.

If it would be legal to Carry and use Sidestep simultaneously you would first halve movement (due to hindering terrain), then apply the -2 modifier for Carrying, and then check for the 4 square limitation. On their top click Cloak and Dagger would be able to Sidestep 3 squares (10/2 - 2 = 3), for instance.

Okay. We weren't sure, and we were having the 4 max movement, and then -2 for Carrying means C&D couldn't move at all. Although I was thinking they could still carry because the Sidestep move would still be the result of being given an action (i.e. not being knocked back or something). But I'm not sure, either.

Would C&D need to roll breakaway as they have Phasing/Teleport?

P/T requires a power action to activate it, so C&D can't use it with Sidestep.
Similarly, Leap/Climb only activates during a move action, so those with L/C could not use that with Sidestep either.

Duh. Apparently my brain is stuck in neutral. Thanks.

OK how about Slapping Shakeoff and Sidestep on Devil Dino?

Also if you fail to break away can you still make 2nd attack?

SHAKE OFF†
Cost: 10
Prerequisite: Transporter or giant character
Choose a character. When the character successfully breaks
away, it deals 1 damage to all adjacent opposing characters.

SIDESTEP
Cost: 10
Prerequisite:
Choose a character. When using the Duo Attack special
ability, before making the second attack the character can
attempt to move up to 4 squares (it must still break away, if
necessary). If it moves, it must be able to attempt the second
attack after the move.


A perfect fit together.


A failed break away immediately ends an action.

Used this with a Thor & Loki duo to win a tourney.

But my question: Does this feat allow you to make your first attack a CCA, and if the opposing fig is KOed, then move 4 squares, and make your second attack a RCA?

I think that it was ruled at the time that you declare that you are using Duo Attack that you must declare both targets and they both must be leagal targets at the time. So if you were based the only person that you could attack it the adjacent figure.
not sure where this can be found at though.(or i may be getting it crossed up with Hitman's SP but was pretty sure it was ruled the same for both.)

Yes indeed. This is reliant upon the duo rules, not the sidestep feat itself. It's actually made easier by the duo rules though... maybe you didn't actually KO the figure, maybe they picked up Combat Reflexes, and you'd rather make your 2nd attack a ranged combat attack. Sounds like a plan to me.

I have to play Devil Dinosaur with Maneuver, Sidestep, Shakeoff and Armor Piercing some day.

Even when in the middle of an already-performed action like the duo attack? There was a question about this in a game last night; we ruled that the 2nd duo attack could continue as normal since, unlike the usual breakaway roll that's needed before a declared move action or moving power action, this action was already in progress.

I don't think that ruling is correct:

Because the attacks are separate and the first is completely resolved before the second, making the second as a ranged attack should be legal if the duo character is no longer based.

Any failed break away roll immediately ends the action of that character. Fly-By is another example where there can be a break away roll mid action and, if it fails, that's the end of it.

Huh. The difference is that Fly-By's breakaway roll occurs at a point after the free action's already been taken, so the roll is comparatively a non-issue. (Looks like I owed csi's Ragnarok Surtur one more round of life...!)