Ant-Man has Avengers Team Ability.

If I thunderbolt him to Fantastic Four, then use the Fantastic Four ATA, does that give everyone 20 defense? [assuming he's on his first click?]

On a related note.. if a wild-card copies Fantastic Four, does that click gain the defense bonus? or does it have to be a figure with a printed Fantastic 4 Team ability?

Also.. if i Thunderbolt a whole slew of Avengers, can they all gain the bonus from the Fantastic Four ATA?

Any help would be awesome!

You cannot use Feats to meet the pre-req of another Feat.

No go there.

As noted, no.

Note that when the new rules go into effect, there will be another reason for 'no': You can only use one alternate team ability on your force.

Not to mention that all ATA-s will be keyword based...

Thunderbolts requires you to pick a t/a and it can't be one that "can't be copied" ATA's can now be copied. Why can't you just Thunderbolt directly into FF alternate team.

+rep for thinking outside the box LoginNamor.

Will the new ATAs be considered Thunderbolt-able?

The Team Abilities on the PAC exist at all times. The Team Abilities from ATAs only exist when that card is played.

I seem to remember reading that in the near future, ATAs will no longer be feats. Therefore, not require a feat card to be played. If and when this is the case, it may be possible to copy ATAs by using the Tbolts ATA. Just have to wait and see I guess.

I may be wrong on that assumption. ATAs may still be feats, they will just be a slightly different type of feat, since they will be the only legal feats in the modern age format. Wish they would release the new ATA rules asap. Clear up the guesstimating on how it will all work.

They won't be feats, but they will still be cards that you will be playing in a similar fashion to feats. Again, they will not be on the PAC, so they won't exist unless hte card is played.

(as for the new ATA rules)
I might be mistaken but I think the New Rulebook includes the ATA rules...

ATAs are no longer Feat Cards they are ATA Cards.

p. 17 Blackest Night Rulebook:

Yeah, what I meant is how and when will these be available. I assume they will only be obtained via 'print and play'.

The Amazon, League of Shadows, JLI and Checkmate ATA cards are part of the BatB Prize support package.. same for the GotG and Runaways in HoT..

Just do what I do and T-Bolt to JSA or Defenders and just make sure everyone is adjacent somehow and chain the 20 defense to everyone.

Also if you really thing about it, the ATA's are not team ability's.
They are Additional Team Ability's(and she be considered as much rather than Alternate.)
So as you can see they are not even team ability's. they are either Additional or Alternate Team Ability's.

Oh, they ARE team abilities.

A Corvette is a Corvette.
A red Corvette is a Corvette.
A little, red Corvette is a Corvette.

If they were not team abilities, then WCs could not copy them.