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No. The old versions of the ATAs are banned from tournament play.
And for anyone looking for rules support on that....
From the Player's Guide:
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The following feat cards are banned as they have been replaced by an Alternate Team Ability card: Alpha Flight, Amazon, Checkmate, Fantastic Four, Green Lantern, Guardians of the Galaxy, Justice League International, League of Assassins, Legionnaires, Monster Society of Evil, Runaways, The Society, Squadron Supreme, and Thunderbolts
But what about the new ones that just came out or were updated? Those are leagal in Modern right? Even though feats aren't aloud in modern, the current ATA's can be used. Right?
Sigh... I wish I had something clever or witty to put here...
But what about the new ones that just came out or were updated? Those are leagal in Modern right? Even though feats aren't aloud in modern, the current ATA's can be used. Right?
ATA's *are not* feats.
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But what about the new ones that just came out or were updated? Those are leagal in Modern right? Even though feats aren't aloud in modern, the current ATA's can be used. Right?
Rule of thumb:
those with a black header are a-OK.
Those with an orange header are off limits.
For instance can the Old Thunderbolts card still give Avengers any team ability in place of the Avengers ability in Golden age rules?
Thanks.
Golden Age and Modern Age follow the same rules. The only difference is Golden Age allows you to use any figures in your collection and you may use Feats, Bystander Tokens and Battlefield Conditions in addition to the Alternate Team Abilities and Figures allowed by Modern Age.
Some people get confused thinking there are 2 sets of rules. There aren't. 1 set for either Ages.
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.
The prize support ATAs for BatB (well my venue was giving them away as prizes) all have orange headers...
And it looks like those actual cards are not legal since they are still considered feats and the wordings have been changed. Wow.
They have the correct script that an ATA requires. The only difference is the Orange Header. I don't see how that would make them "illegal"?
Plus WK has fallen asleep on the job by not producing any other versions.
You couldn't call them "feats" as they are now Alternate Team Abilities and must follow the rules as such. Here are the rules for Alternate Team Abilities (from Player's GUide pg 21):
General
Alternate Team Abilities must be used and costed for all qualified team members on your force.
Alternate Team Abilities cannot be used by a character during a free action granted by being successfully hit with Mind Control.
Unless an Alternate Team Ability says otherwise, the team ability it grants is in addition to any other team ability the character can currently use.
Note, it does not say ATA's must have a black header and have their number begin with AT.
The BatB ATA's are all legal and do not need any change.
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.
Golden Age and Modern Age follow the same rules. The only difference is Golden Age allows you to use any figures in your collection and you may use Feats, Bystander Tokens and Battlefield Conditions in addition to the Alternate Team Abilities and Figures allowed by Modern Age.
Bystanders from the appropriate sets are allowed in Modern Age. That would be from Avengers onward under the current scheme.
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They have the correct script that an ATA requires. The only difference is the Orange Header. I don't see how that would make them "illegal"?
They have been banned.
From the Player's Guide:
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The following feat cards are banned as they have been replaced by an Alternate Team Ability card: Alpha Flight, Amazon, Checkmate, Fantastic Four, Green Lantern, Guardians of the Galaxy,Justice League International, League of Assassins, Legionnaires, Monster Society of Evil, Runaways, The Society, Squadron Supreme, and Thunderbolts
Quote : Originally Posted by tyroclix
Plus WK has fallen asleep on the job by not producing any other versions.
While I don't think WizKids has provided us the tools that they should for Print and Play, they have provided these ATAs as black bordered ATAs. (Even if they haven't updated their own gallery.) Click here to get all the DC ATAs.
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Note, it does not say ATA's must have a black header and have their number begin with AT.
The BatB ATA's are all legal and do not need any change.
See above where the rules state that the orange bordered feat/ATAs are banned. (And the new black bordered ones don't list numbers since ATAs are not tied to a set anymore.)