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I was playing at a venue last week, and was playing the judge in a bye round. I had Dr. Strange (who was not using stealth in any way) on top of the object. The judge then said that he could blow up the object beneath me thus negating my hindering bonus I was getting. I didn't think this was able to happen unless the character on the object was using stealth because the attacker couldn't draw line of fire to the character, but could now attack the object. If my character wasn't using stealth, wouldn't any line of fire to that square be drawn to my character and not the object? To further confuse the issue, the judge at my other venue ruled in the complete opposite direction. Now, before anybody weighs in, I would just like to say that in both cases I followed Norm's example and agreed with both rulings because they were the judge's rulings and that is the final word whether right or wrong. However, I'm playing there again tonight, and would like to know...Whow WAS right?
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Originally quoted by: Soxolas
"Friendship is not about what you were physically there for, It's about what you were mentally there for"
Figures never block LoF to the square they are standing in. There is no default target for LoF. You are either drawing LoF to the figure or to the square. And one doesn't effect the other. Stealth is a non-issue either way. The object will your fig is standing on will always be targettable by any figure on the board unless there is some other mechanic involved that prevents it (like a third figure blocking LoF).
I was playing at a venue last week, and was playing the judge in a bye round. I had Dr. Strange (who was not using stealth in any way) on top of the object. The judge then said that he could blow up the object beneath me thus negating my hindering bonus I was getting. I didn't think this was able to happen unless the character on the object was using stealth because the attacker couldn't draw line of fire to the character, but could now attack the object. If my character wasn't using stealth, wouldn't any line of fire to that square be drawn to my character and not the object? To further confuse the issue, the judge at my other venue ruled in the complete opposite direction. Now, before anybody weighs in, I would just like to say that in both cases I followed Norm's example and agreed with both rulings because they were the judge's rulings and that is the final word whether right or wrong. However, I'm playing there again tonight, and would like to know...Whow WAS right?
The first judge was correct. In order to draw a LOF to a character you must draw LOF to the center of the square the character occupies. In order to draw a LOF to an object, you must draw LOF to the center of the square the object occupies. (Same requirement.) So if the character is not using Stealth, you will be able to draw LOF to the character or the object. (The rules prevent attacking both with the same attack although theoretically you are able to draw LOF to both at the same time.)
Figures never block LoF to the square they are standing in. There is no default target for LoF. You are either drawing LoF to the figure or to the square. And one doesn't effect the other. Stealth is a non-issue either way. The object will your fig is standing on will always be targettable by any figure on the board unless there is some other mechanic involved that prevents it (like a third figure blocking LoF).
Thank you. That is actually what I thought, and I wanted to go with that ruling myself, but I had been told wrong the first time having tried to do that myself and was denied the ability to do so. I'm glad that both Judge #1 and more importantly, I were correct.
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Originally quoted by: Soxolas
"Friendship is not about what you were physically there for, It's about what you were mentally there for"
Thank you. That is actually what I thought, and I wanted to go with that ruling myself, but I had been told wrong the first time having tried to do that myself and was denied the ability to do so. I'm glad that both Judge #2 and more importantly, I were correct.
Thank you. That is actually what I thought, and I wanted to go with that ruling myself, but I had been told wrong the first time having tried to do that myself and was denied the ability to do so. I'm glad that both Judge #2 and more importantly, I were correct.
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Wasn't Judge 1 correct?
Yes. Judge 1 was correct. The figure, in the example Dr. Strange does not block LoF to the object he is standing on. Therefore it is legal to target the object under Dr. Strange. This is true regardless of whether or not Strange had Stealth. Sorry if the last part of my answer caused some confusion. What I meant is if Adam Warlock were standing in front of Strange then Adam Warlock would block LoF to the object/square/Strange.