I was playing a game where my Superskrull got hit by a psychic blast into a wall. We decided that all damage done was through the psychic blast attack so he took 2 damage + 1 damage from knockback to wall through his invuln.

I tried looking in the forums and on the FAQ for any questions concerning this just to make sure but could not find anything. I was wondering if the knockback damage into the wall counts as part of the psychic blast, thus going through invuln or toughness too, or if it is a separate damage. In which case it would not harm a character who has toughness or invuln after the initial psych blast damage is done.

Thanks.

I don't think it should have harmed SuperSkrull.

The psychic blast is only for the base damage. I believe I read somewhere that even if you scored a critical hit, that critical hit damage wouldn't even be considered of psychic nature.

So if Hercules is hit by a psychic attack (e.g. 2 damage) and was hit by a critical, then Herc still takes only two damage because his toughness blocked the critical hit +1 damage while the other 2 bypasses any demage reducing abiities. (well, since this generates knockback, check if Herc smashes a wall, if so, then Herc takes that damage since his toughness already soaked up the crit)

I could be wrong but that how I understand it.

Cheers!

I noticed this because it seemed familiar, and low and behold, it was you cevn.

Here was my logic:

The wording for Psychic Blast:
"A ranged combat attack made by this figure ignores any power that reduces damage."

Also, it has been ruled that toughness and invulnerability do not reset for knock back; the damage is part of the same attack.

So, since the damage from knock back is part of the same ranged combat attack made by a figure with Psychic Blast, invulnerability should be ignored.

Yeah i wasn't trying to argue it either. I lost my rule book so couldn't look up the ruling on it. And wanted to know exact wording and nature of knock back damage for future situations.

And critical hit on psychic blast would do the added damage ignoring invuln/toughness right?

The critical hit damage would ignore Toughness/Invulnerability. The knockback damage would be reduced though, and here is a thread where HeroComplex explains it.

Yeah, a critical hit on psychic blast would ignore damage powers, and, by the same thread, so would knockback damage.


Though the argument for logic's sake would tend to lead otherwise, but who ever claimed the game of heroclix was logical