ig002 U In-Betweener
Team: Mystics|Power Cosmic
Range: 10
Points: 290
Keywords: Cosmic, Elders of the Universe, Mystical, Zodiac

10 11 17 4

10 11 17 4

10 11 17 4

10 11 17 4

9 10 16 3

9 10 16 3

9 10 16 3

9 10 16 3

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

KO KO KO KO

(Speed) The Source of Magic: In-Betweener deals 2 unavoidable damage instead of 1 unavoidable damage when using the Mystics team ability.


MYSTICS
When a character using the Mystics team ability takes
damage from an attack, the attacker is dealt 1 unavoidable
damage. This damage is not an attack.


Say Inbetweener is on click #4, gets hit by a character's attack, and lands on click 5-8. Would the attacker take 2 for mystics because of landing on "The Source of Magic" or would that power have to be showing when Inbetweener was hit by the attack, before the dial is clicked to gain its effects?

The power has to be showing.

I agree...however to address the OP's question, I'd say that since Mystics damage is dealt when the Mystic takes damage, it would have to be showing at the time the attack hits.

Order of procedure:

Successful attack
Deal damage/damage reducers
Was the character dealt damage? Yes, Mystics kicks in.
When Mystics Activates is power showing? Yes, deal 2 unavoidable damage.

This.


Just don't hit him again now

Or use a figure with the shadowpact ATA and some wild cards

Unlike everyone else in the thread, I agree with this. So I think to the OP, yes, they would take 2 if after taking damage he is on The Source of Magic.

The best part about the discussion/disagreement is that this has been officially previewed by WK/Neca, so we will be able to get a ruling or a "Looking into it" at least!

I would think that the attacker would only take 1 damage. Since Mystics TA states that the damage is dealt when the damage is taken it should be applied when the In-Betweener is still on Click 4.

If the wording was that Mystics damage was dealt after the attackers damage was dealt, then I would go with the 2 Mystics damage.

How do you know you dealt damage? Because it has already been applied.

I agree : Does the power show after damage are dealt ? Then the attacker takes 2 damage. Mystics does not trigger with the damage that are dealt but the one that are taken, in other words applied.

Since mystics triggers when damage is taken, I would say whatever is showing when you start to turn the dial is what is applicable, not after the damage is taken. So in this hypothetical, only 1 mystics damage.

Ok let's use an example:

Here the activation is the same.
Bag-Man deals damage back after damage is applied, so Mystics would as well and since his power is showing it would deal 2.

But it triggers when they take damage,you have to turn the dial once for it to be damage taken and that is when the power is showing.I agree with MisterID.

Whats the rule for knockback/charge? Is it if its showing when HIT, or when damage resolves (or either)?