From the PAC: "This character must have a clear line of fire to the destination square."

Does the Character have to have line of sight to the destination square before he moves the target or after?

For example:
Say we have Jean Grey(J) and a Thug(T) set up as follows

1
2
3
4
T
J
7
8
9

Can Jean Grey move the Thug to space 1? He can't see that space at the start of the move because the Thug is blocking it but once everything is all done he can see it. You should be able to push someone directly away from you(spaces1-4) instead of through you(spaces 8-9). I would think that being able to see the dest. space is to keep you from putting him around the corner or something.

the object or character that is being TKd does not interfere with LOS. So, yes, you can.

Alrighty... when moving a figure...the target figure you are moving will not block Line of Fire. So, if you are targeting the Thug to be moved... then he would not block Line of Fire. every other figure will still block Line of Fire though.

Does this answer enough? or more?

That's what I thougt but my friend disagreed.

where in the PAC or FAQ does it say that the figure being TK'ed doesn't block LoF? I can't find anything to indicate this.

You know... I knew someone would ask.

alrighty... let me retract what I said and give somehing else:
From the PAC:
Alrighty... when moving a figure...the target figure you are moving will not block Line of Fire. So, if you are targeting the Thug to be moved... then he would not block Line of Fire. In fact, NO other figure will block Line of Fire though.

Does this answer enough? or more?

I believe that it's in the FAQ that the figure or object does not block LOS.

-lavinah

I don't know about that Ruling Tsannik. The quote you have from the PAQ is quite specific to the movement action. You MOVE the figure 10 spaces and ignore all figures and hindering terrain. It's Obviously to get around figures having to stop when moving adjacent to an opposing figure or hindering terrain. You still need LOF to the final destination.

so if I have the following:

XXDXX
XXEXX
XXXXX
XXXXX
XXFXX
XXTXX

D = destination square (empty)
E = enemy figure
F = friendly figure to be TK'ed
T = TK'er

I could move F to D, since neither E nor F block LoF?
Weird

Very well... let me find out for sure....


You're right.. there is no definitive answer in the PAC, FAQ or rules... and I couldn't find anything in the WK Judegs forum that directly related....

I tend to agree with ChromeWeasel...I think "ignoring hindering terrain and figure bases" refers to the movement of the figure over these spaces, not the LoF.

This was the first time the issue was ruled upon, and though it's old it's still standing strong. When using TK for movement, whatever is being moved does not affect LoF. Tsannik was right, just taking the long road to get there.

I could have sworn I just read here that you couldnt use a TKd object that a Stealth character was standing on and then bash him with it. If the object that's moved doesnt affect LOF, then you CAN TK an object away from a Stealth figure and bash him with it in the same action.

Do I recall this incorrectly?

Unfortunately the ruling was made that since you cannot have LoF to the Stealth figure at the time the attack is declared, you cannot use the object they're on to hit them during the action - you can only move the object away from them and leave them open for someone else to shoot at them.

Chrome,

I see what you are trying to point out. I've tried hard to think (for about 3 hours) for a better explanation...

All I can say right now is... it's past midnight... I've got to work tomorrow, but this will be something that I'll try and tackle when I'm fresh from a good night's rest...