AVOID DETECTION: When it is not your turn, lines of fire drawn to Batman are blocked unless a friendly character has taken damage this turn.

Does Batman's trait prevent him from being Pulse Waved? I can't recall if PW ignores traits or not.

Hair his trait does in fact prevent him from being a target of Pulse Wave. This has actually been ruled on multiple times.

I'll try to pull one up for you.

PW does ignore traits (it ignores all game effects a character can use)... but it must be able to draw LOF to the character to do so.

Batman's trait prevents LOF from being drawn, so nothing is ignored.

And before someone asks about Stealth, Stealth only blocks LOF if the LOF crosses hindering terrain. PW ignores hindering terrain so Stealth can't block LOF.

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Thanks for the info...so traits are not ignored by PW then?

So its a " chicken and egg" scenario at best and an exception to PW at worst.

I don't see how there is any "best" or "worst". It is just the way it works.

Anything that actuall prevents LOF from being drawn in the first place is potentially a factor. As point out, Stealth doesn't work since PW ignores the hindering terrain.

But The Hand ATA, Invisible Kid's trait (FULL INVISIBILITY: Invisible Kid can use Stealth. Any line of fire drawn to Invisible Kid is blocked if he has no action tokens.), the Open Grave special terrain on the Crisis Graveyard map, etc, can all nerf PW.

If PW ignores traits then the LOF requirement shouldn't come onto play... Its being ignored after all.

As for PW ignoring hindering terrain... Do you not get a hindering terrain bonus against PW? Or was that changed to "justify" things like batmans trait?

No HT bonuses against PW attacks. It was one of the newest tweaks to Pulse Wave.

I call it the dumb gamer's power...you don't have to account for ANYTHING when using PW save for LoF and perhaps Batman

Except that now PW stipulates that everything is ignored *once* lines are drawn.

Read the power text-- they really made it clear, although it now has some limitations it didn't used to.

That God Damned Batman!

The change from "LOF is only blocked by" to "draw LOF ignoring these things" caused some shifts. There is no longer a bonus for Hindering, the initial LOF has to be drawn before any powers etc are ignored, and it no longer ignores Map effects: those are the three biggest issues.

But if he actually read it, he wouldn't get to complain

FWIW, the new Pulse Wave is a change I really like. It's a little confusing at first, but in the long rule it makes things explicit and clear that used to be known only through rulings. Harder for us long-timers, but much easier to get if you are a new player. I also like that it allows for some things to not be affected (Hand ATA, this Batman, etc).

It has always been this way.