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Just switched over from MTG to Clix and I have a power interaction/timing query:
CW Loki's trait gives him Shape Change that on a 6 makes all ranged attacks impossible against friendly characters. If someone who ignores Shape Change attacks, do I still get a roll? Or does ignoring SC ignore the roll and thus the chance to proc the special ability?
Just switched over from MTG to Clix and I have a power interaction/timing query:
CW Loki's trait gives him Shape Change that on a 6 makes all ranged attacks impossible against friendly characters. If someone who ignores Shape Change attacks, do I still get a roll? Or does ignoring SC ignore the roll and thus the chance to proc the special ability?
Please quote the effect in question. Not only does it make sure we all know what you are talking about, but often times a second read through will reveal the answer. For reference:
My Unwitting Pawns: Loki can use Shape Change. When Loki rolls a 6 for Shape Change, friendly characters can’t be targeted by ranged attacks this turn.
So we see here that the friendly characters in question aren't using Shape Change. Stuff that ignores Shape Change wouldn't work.
Please quote the effect in question. Not only does it make sure we all know what you are talking about, but often times a second read through will reveal the answer. For reference:
My Unwitting Pawns: Loki can use Shape Change. When Loki rolls a 6 for Shape Change, friendly characters can’t be targeted by ranged attacks this turn.
So we see here that the friendly characters in question aren't using Shape Change. Stuff that ignores Shape Change wouldn't work.
I believe the question is "if a figure that ignores Shape Change attacks Loki does he get to still make the roll potentially protecting his "friends?" Essentially, can you (if you choose) roll Shape Change when targeted by a figure with Battle Fury?
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Yes, you still roll for it. It's like the White Invincibility on Superman...even though Exploit Weakness and Psychic Blast would normally ignore the reducer, you can still roll for the secondary effect of White Invincibility. At least that's how I see it.
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Yes, you still roll for it. It's like the White Invincibility on Superman...even though Exploit Weakness and Psychic Blast would normally ignore the reducer, you can still roll for the secondary effect of White Invincibility. At least that's how I see it.
You still roll for Impervious in those cases because P/PB and EW deal penetrating damage. Penetrating damage doesn't ignore anything at all. Instead, it just simply prevents damage from being reduced.
Now, if Superman's Impervious was ignored (say, by Pulse Wave), you absolutely would NOT roll the d6.
So, yeah, upon rereading the OP's post, he does indeed seem to be talking about Loki as the target of the attack. In that case, if Loki's Shape Change is ignored, there is no roll.