Trying to get help from the community. Sorry if this is a repeat.
So just a short moment ago I tried this maneuver and I was argued down. Robin from the team pack's trait says:

SNAG AND DRAG: When Robin uses Incapacitate and hits, after actions resolve, Robin automatically breaks away and may move 4 squares as a free action and then places the hit character in an adjacent square.

I did a running shot to use the batarangs from the belt. I figured this activated the trait. So I gave him the extra token to give them the extra token. I then moved four squares with everyone I hit in tow. I then hopped in the Robincycle and did another running shot.
I was told that since it didn't happen under his own Incap, it wasn't a legal move. I understand the rule about powers coming from two sources. But the trait just says when he uses it and doesn't specify the source and he does not have Incap on his first click.

Am I right or wrong?

He used Incap that is all the trait is looking for.

As I read it the Batarangs should activate his trait no problem.

I would say that since the Trait doesn't grant Incap, only grants an additional effect, then it would work with any use of Incapacitate.

And, since Robin doesn't start with Incap on his dial, if he had it from the Bat Belt, he would use it from the Bat Belt Batarangs.

So, yeah, looks like you should have been able to do that.

Looks to me like you are right, as long as Robin was on his first click.

Thank you. Sometimes it can be hard to explain things to the group I play with. They've been playing a lot longer than me, so I tend to get shot down a lot based on that.

Or any of his other clicks where Incapacitate is not showing on the Dial - 4+5.

Just sayin'.

From the OP:

"I did a running shot to use the batarangs from the belt."

DAGNABIT

I totally missed the running shot. Thanks MoomPix!

You win, sir! (tips hat) :knockedou

If Robin already has Incap from the Utility Belt, he should keep Incap from the Utility Belt on click two, since he had that use of Incap first, and wouldn't gain Incap from the dial.

Unless there was a ruling on this that I'm not aware of, which is entirely possible.

The current "rule" is that the character dial takes precedence. It's not officially in the rulebook or PG, but it's what the way the deputies have ruled on it so far.

Will that change? I don't know.

The Batrangs don't give the character the power to use incapacitate until they are given the ranged combat action to activate batarangs:

Batarangs
Resource
Give this character a ranged combat action to use Incapcitate to target all opposing characters within 6 squares and line of fire; this character can use "Improved Targeting: Ignores Characters" for this attack. You may give this character an additional action token and if you do, hit characters are given an additional action token.

Before you give them that action, they aren't a character who can use incapacitate. So, the printed power would give them possession of incapacitate before the batarangs will.

Y'see! This is what I get for not reading every Rules thread!!!
(any chance you could help me out with a link? I do like to keep up on things like this. but, my search-fu is weak, and work is kinda busy today...)

Y'see! This is what I get for not quoting every Game Effect in a thread!!

Thanks for clarifying, guys.

"I've been playing longer" is a terrible reason to use as a basis for a ruling. The rules have changed somewhat significantly in the 10 years I've been playing, and whenever someone refutes something I try to do, I either call a judge and use what he says for the rest of the tournament, or look into it immediately if it's a casual game.

I'm guessing the "ruling" being refered to is post 144 here http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showth...408402&page=10. altho that seems pretty light as a ruling. I really hope this is in the cave getting something more solid than "This is a little ambiguous, but I would actually be inclined to rule it as Rurouni KJS said here, although I see argument either way." cuz that feels really thin.