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On a vet vs vet basis platic man has one click where he can hit Mr. Fantastic. He has a range of 4 vs. a range of 8. Mr. F would have to roll pretty ####py to lose this match.
In the comics, Plas has the advantage of powers: Plas can become rigid, and is much stronger than Reed.
In the comics, Reed has the advantage of smarts and support (the FF is far more likely to rush to Reed's aid than the JLA is to go help Plas).
In Clix, Reed should NOT have Invulnerability. The most resilience he has ever shown has been against small arms fire. Impacts like hand grenades, which the Thing and She-Hulk shrug off, for example, he does withstand... but it knocks him out...
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As an avid reader of Fantastic Four for many many years Im gonna reply to almost everythin here....in the game, Mr. Fantastic would take it all the way....same goes for the comics too. I 100% agree Reed is way too smart to lose to someone like Plastic Man, and although he seems weak most of the time, Reed can actually beat Doom one on one which im sure Plastic couldn't. I'll get that issue for reference if anyone likes...and Reed can make his body just as rigid as plastic as well, i've seen him turn his fists into maces many many times...giant hammers too....and i know most disagree, but I think Reed deserves Inv. on his clix piece, I have issues where he withstands a ton more than small firearms and doesnt get KOed, May's issue of FF shows the Thing belting Reed and he withstands it all, and considerin the punch was aimed at Doom, I'm sure it was a pretty heavy swing....it may seem im being biased here, but really I'm not, there's no way Plastic could take out Reed Richards in any way.....not Elongated Man either Hell, my favourite villain of all time is Jervis Tetch, and I know he can't do squat most of the time, but just cause I like him i ain't ever gonna say it'd be a close match one on one between him and Bane....that's enough ranting for now methinks
I think Plasticman would win. Reed has limits as to how far he can stretch, Plastic doesn't. Plastic has in the past used his body to lasso the moon! All he'd have to do is wrap his pinky around Reed's entire body and suffocate him. If given time to prepare, I'm sure Reed would invent a gadget that would nutralize Plastic's powers, if not outright kill him. But not in a straight one on one brawl
This is an interesting battle because intangibles would determine the outcome.
Reed ability to stretch is far inferior to Plastic Man's. Add to that the diversity of shapes that Plastic Man can achieve and he comes out on top in the raw power category. This, however is just a top-level look at the two and by no means the determining factor in ether’s victory.
What you really have going on here is an epic battle of nature and entropy – Law vs. Chaos!!!
This battle has depth that the average comic book reader would miss, summarily dismissing this as a giant rubber-band contest. Bah, this is the end-all of battles!!!
On the one hand you have Plastic Man:
True he's immortal but the real intrigue lies in what has been speculated and said in whispers by other superheroes.
We know that Plas can assume any shape imaginable. What people forget is that when assuming a shape Plas also exhibits the powers of said shape. For instance...
We have all seen Plas pop into the form of a hot air balloon or an automobile. Where, then does he get the propellants for such vehicles? How is it possible for him to operate as said objects? How about the times he's assumed the shape of a rocket to jet across the skyline? Could he "arm" himself if he wanted? Lately (JLA) he's assumed the form of a big, muscular guy when going into combat. When doing so he has super strength.
The fact is that Plas's power goes far beyond stretching. It’s almost on par with Molecule Man or Impossible Man (minus the “pop”). While MM can alter reality around him with but a whim, Plas can alter himself with a whim. The only limiting factor to his power is his own imagination (and a slight case of insanity).
When you start to think of the possibilities (as Batman has) it kinda sends a chill down your spine.
Batman said it best:
"Immeasurably powerful. Absolutely nuts."
Or
"Dibney (Elongated Man) doesn't stand a chance...
Not against Him...
He could kill us all, for Him it'd be easy...
He could kill us all.
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.
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It'd be easy"
Plastic man is a force of nature, Chaos in all its benign countenance. Should this chaos go unchecked by Eel O’Brian’s natural good disposition and propensity for comic relief… ah, me… there’s no telling what he could do.
On the other hand you have the genius of Reed Richards, an elemental force of Law and Order. His entire aspect is based on the scientific explanation of the unexplainable. He has mastered chaos itself in the creation of stabilized unstable molecules, he has discovered new regions of inner and outer space, and he has defended the order of the galaxy even though it meant defending the greatest known force of entropy – Galactus.
His scientific mind is unparalleled. If there is a way to decipher the lunacy of Plastic Man Reed Richards could find it… but is there a way? And how much time would it take… too much?
A head-to-head fight between these two would be fun to watch. If written properly it could be epic. The outcome is anyone’s guess.
Plasticman's a goof, and so were most of his writers. I mean come on LASSO the moon? Transform into a jetplane or a car. Thats beyond silly, thats just.....resisting urge to get warning. Anyway, Reed is smarter, not some comic relief character, and has had infinately better writers. Therefore...reed all the way. Moon lasso or not Mr F would just zap his @$$ to the Negative Zone. Besides Plastic Man is pink.
My favorite Mr. Fantastic fight was against his doppleganger int he Infinity war Crossover. AWSOME fight between two Strecthos. Showed me I had always underestimated what he can do. He's more than just grabbing test tubes on teh far wall
Don't have the issue number but I'm sure one of the FF fans can fill this in.
as for a fight i think I would have to go Plastic man for the first fight and then Mr. F for the rest. You couldn't "accidentally" kill Reed and Plas wouldn't do it intentionally. Then Reed would design something to stop/contain him