i can't beleive that for weeks now we've had access to stats on the Units page, and no one has even begun to start a thread discussing these little beauties. I know a few you already have some, but a lot of us have to wait 10 more days. and I'm going to start the party now.

First of all, a lot of these characters will really be interesting to play, there's a lot of mastermind and leadership going arond (penguin, lex, sgt. rock) and changing dials...i'm excited about the creativity that i think will be nesecarry to make good use of these characters.

(*i* am going to try and avoid going on about characters that i've seen talked about in length...GL, Mystics, for example)

Deathstroke- Holy ####! 10 AV with Energy Explosion, 17 DV ith Willpower (regen on the end), Stealth and Outwit. all for 58 points?? That is a sick figure. I can't wait to get my hands on him, and I can't think about how useful that stealthed EE will be against cheese GL teams...I can't wait for Slade Wilson, baby! I propose the question...is this the new Nightwing?? Is he better???

Starfire- V can running shot for 6 spaces on 10 range - she can cover 16 squares in one move, guys. and you're working with a 10 AV on that role. her defense is a little light at 15 (at least she has toughness), you're paying for that teen titans ability (blah), but you have 4 damage on ranged attacks for four click. pretty cool. something to bring for all those RSers in Marvel.

Cheetah- V, again. good lord. Charge and BCF?? that is sick, man. attacks for 11, defense of 16 w/ super sense is money. 88 is heavy duty points, but i think she'll be one of the more money pieces, maybe relatively underrated like catwoman.

Wonder Woman (V)- AV for 11, 17 DV with imprevious for 2 clicks, does a whopping 5 damage in Close Combat, has charge for 5 squares, can fly, has willpower w/JLA free move. she totally costs at 126 points, her 71 rookie is solid at 9 AV and 16 DV, doing 4 in close combat...So, money.

Troia- A poorman's Wonder Woman, but only her cost really reflects that, her veteran is a pretty heavy hitter for 98 points ( I mean, I think I'd rather have Swamp Thing, but I suspect Troia is a flier, if she's not that's bunk, and she costs too much. :-)

Easy Company and Sgt. Rock - It's nice to get some Police team ability with some personality. I LOVE Sgt. Rock and can wait to use him. They only have rookie sgt. rock, so any information on E or V would be MUCH appreciated, but he looks potentially like a more useful Commish Gordan. rookie is 28 points. I don't know, I'm not crazy about mastermind, period. There's tons of it in CJ, too.

Starman- I'm not for sure is this the old Starman, or the new one his son? I'm hoping for the latter, but either way, it's great to get more fliers (CJ is FULL of them) and some 10 range. I'd like a little higher AV, but I've always been a fan...well, that's what perplex is for.

Green Arrow (V) - Stealth, 11 AV for 3 damage on 10 range. that's NIICE.

Real quick, the LSH - Saturn Girl is going to be used by everybody, AV of 10 for MC with a range of 10? Plus, perplex for her WHOLE dial, and she's cheap for 76. I think she'll be everywhere. And Lightning Lad is a much better money sniper than R Huntress, especially if he can wildcard a batman ally somewhere. i think i saw that his rookie was 22 points?

lot's more fliers, and cheap generic taxis like the parademons. I'm wicked hyped, kids.

post away! let's get a fever pitch for the next 10 days!

You're so right. Lots of cool new stuff.
I ordered my Case last week and can't wait to put my hands on these figs.
I so hope I'll get Unique Batman. I even bought the Comics to get in touch with this version of him.
Green Arrow will be so cool. Bullseye, you're out!

EmperorNorton

Check here:
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showth...=&pagenumber=1

I wouldn't say better, I'd say he has different uses. Slade has a shorter range (6 v. 8) and since he has the actual Stealth power rather than the Batman Team Ability he doesn't have the Leap/Climb mobility while Stealthed that Mr. Grayson has. Plus Nightwing does more damage. But the Willpower is a definite plus and I think both Nightwing and Deathstroke will see lots of play.

Yes, she flies. And her general stats fall right in line with her price cost when compared to WW.

It's Jack, although the pose is pretty static.

I hate to chaunce myself out...but, go to that link that grinner put up...

and i thought I was so original.

:-(

i cant believe we haven't had more pictures of the figures the florida people hooked us up with pic's of about every figure when xplosion preselled oh well

Here's a link to pics of all of the r/e/v's:

http://action-figure.com/modules.php...rder=0&thold=0

"i cant believe we haven't had more pictures of the figures the florida people hooked us up with pic's of about every figure when xplosion preselled oh well"

what I'm surprised about is that we don't have all the stats for CJ yet. With all the people that went to WWE I think we should have all them.

Also, I see people post "oh I got x ammount of boosters of CJ at WWE and I got

Fig A
Fig B
Fig C
Fig D
etc."


Well Fig A and Fig B might not be in the units section, but they never send stats in for some reason.

Come on people, let's finish up stats for this set!

Grinner is TOTALLY my LinkMaster. I think he spends as much time around this stuff OL as I do...everyone say "Thank You" to grinner.

"thanks, grinner!"

good, kids.

anyone have any idea now, when DC is going to see some of those other Marvel powers? Like Prob Control (though I can't think who it would be applicable too) or Flurry.

I'm sure there's more that I'm missing...anyone, thoughts? comments?

There are lots of DC characters who could have probability control.

Apart from the magic people with vague powers (Dr. Fate, for example), there are a number of characters (mainly villains) who have Probability Control in the DC Universe:

Hazard of Injustice Unlimited.

Amos Fortune (Justice League foe), and Julian September the modern version.

Major Disaster could possibly qualify after being enhanced by Neron.

Less well-known characters:

The Luck Lords of Ventura
Calamity King

I'm not so concerned about a lack of Flurry in DC. I'm more concerned that Marvel has the best Hypersonic speed character (that's as bad as giving Marvel the best perplexers!).

I can see Probability Control in DC being represented by characters who affect the outcome of situations through cleverness or planning. For example, if they were to make a unique Oracle, she'd be a good candidate because she's always providing information that helps the heroes out of a jam. She could anticipate something happening and have a way out prepared.

And I'm surprised too that we don't have all the stats yet! I know people have the figures, why aren't they posting the stats? Oh well, only another week and half till we all have the figures!

Probablity Control could also reflect a character's ability to see the future (which is why Xplosion's Destiny has it). So we could add in Hourman (Rick or Tyler) and Dream Girl (from the Legion).

Other powers not yet in the DC version of the game are:

Defend (Wonder Woman should've had it -- maybe Brainiac 5 in the next one.)
Pulse Wave (Black Canary should've had it in this set -- maybe Damage from the Titans will have it in the next one)
Enhancement (um . . . John Constantine, maybe -- ?)
and Flurry and PC, as mentioned above.

Of course, with Indyclix on the horizon, we may have even more new powers to look forward to . . .

Yes. His Experienced Version (with much more solid stats) is only 37. I fully expect to see a large number of Live Wire-heavy armies, just because the wild-card ability is so much more bent in DC than it is in Marvel. Consider this 300-point squad:

2x Experienced Live Wire
3x Rookie Live Wire
1x Experienced Aquaman
1x Experienced Robin
1x Veteran Zatanna
1x Veteran Intergang Medic
1x Veteran Easy Company Medic

Your Live Wires, in this army, have the team abilities of Batman, the JLA, the Police, the Superman Enemies, and the Mystics. Movement simply won't be a problem for you thanks to all those Wires having JLA free moves (plus Aquaman's Leadership), you can cheerfully not worry about Energy Explosion (traditionally the bane of weenie armies) thanks to the Mystic abiity making it worse for the attacker than it is for you, your Live Wires can all hide like Batman, and when you stack them together in groups in the hindering terrain, they both get plusses to attack (from Police) and Outwit (from Superman Enemy).

That's utterly insane. Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl are also-rans in comparison, and they're both decent figures. Mark my words - the rookie and experienced Live Wires are going to be the real shakers of this set.

Other figures that impress me? The experienced Firestorm (an above-average taxi with good distance attacks), the veteran Deathstroke (fantastic stats for cost AND he starts with Outwit AND Willpower?), the experienced Starman (everything that Booster Gold is, except better), and Eclipso, the sheer viciousness of whom just amazes me - he's a Mind Control piece who's going to stay on the board practically forever AND is also a total badass on top of it.

...hmm, i'm posting on my post...

RKShakespeare, we're pretty much in agreement. I think you'll see a lot more of saturn girl, personally. at least from me. that 10 range, the full dial of perplex, the 10 attack for mind control. that's grotesque, man. but livewire will be on there, too. i've been DREAMING about the zatanna, LSH teamup...that will destroy. I expect to see a lot of zatanna out there too. geez, and you can play them with Gl don't forget. Gl, SG, LW and a whole bunch of cops...ugh

I don't play mixed, nor would i play multiples of the same character (what is that...five lightning lads, come on now. make the game interesting for yourself.0 BUT...i've played against dr. doom enough to know that i'm not too exccited about him hanging out with circe or zatanna.

I'm definitely hyped about deathstroke, too. i think it's pretty obvious that he's the REAL teen titans villian in this set. I really think he's going to destroy!

I don't know if I agree with starman vs. booster. don't get me wrong i'm going to use the heck out of Starman, maybe even replacing Booster..MAYBE...booster is my friend. he's saved my neck many a time.

I keep expecting to see a LOT more written about Despero. Despero is the scariest click in the deck, man. he's an AV of what, 12? psychic blast and four damage. how can he miss? and you can't defend that, baby. even if you outwit his psychic blast that four is straight up. you're taking at least two. gross and awesome. he might be what i think darkseid should've been. just palin scary.

I'm so hyped I can't stand it.

argh, stop stop stop! we're getting ours on the 26th! that s 2 days more than most of you guys, unless my shop is holding something back...

i preordered 2 cases of CJ...

lancelot