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YOU'RE A MUTANT, TOO?: Professor X and Magneto can use Mind Control and Penetrating/Psychic Blast. When they hit with either one, after actions resolve they may use the other as a free action.
So. They take a non-free action to use psychic blast. They hit, so that lets them use mind control as a free action. The mind control hits, too. Can they then use psychic blast AGAIN, now as a free action?
Obviously this chain would eventually stop via the free action rule, but I am curious does this work?
As I said before, I'm looking forward to the day I can have the USS Enterprise driving a Batmobile which has been pimped out with a Gauntlet! ~~Harpua
Section 1 in the Golden Age Players Guide, under Free Actions:
Any game effect that grants the character a free action can not
use that free action to initiate the action that granted the free
action in the first place, unless it specifies otherwise. (For
example, the power action of Multiattack can‘t be used to give
the character a power action for another Multiattack).
Section 1 in the Golden Age Players Guide, under Free Actions:
Any game effect that grants the character a free action can not
use that free action to initiate the action that granted the free
action in the first place, unless it specifies otherwise. (For
example, the power action of Multiattack can‘t be used to give
the character a power action for another Multiattack).
Hmm but one is mind control and one is P/SB... though I see where you are coming from. I would like an orange ruling on this if possible.
As I said before, I'm looking forward to the day I can have the USS Enterprise driving a Batmobile which has been pimped out with a Gauntlet! ~~Harpua
YAY!!! Exodus has the same Special! Pulled both! Woot!
Actually Exodus' power is worded slightly different:
"PSYCHIC DOMINATION: Exodus can use Penetrating/Psychic Blast and Telekinesis. If he hits an opposing character with one of them, he may use the other as a free action after actions resolve."
Vs. the Duo's being:
"YOU'RE A MUTANT, TOO?: Professor X and Magneto can use Mind Control and Penetrating/Psychic Blast. When they hit with either one, after actions resolve they may use the other as a free action."
I believe that because Exodus' says "If he hits..." it only works once.
Actually Exodus' power is worded slightly different:
"PSYCHIC DOMINATION: Exodus can use Penetrating/Psychic Blast and Telekinesis. If he hits an opposing character with one of them, he may use the other as a free action after actions resolve."
Vs. the Duo's being:
"YOU'RE A MUTANT, TOO?: Professor X and Magneto can use Mind Control and Penetrating/Psychic Blast. When they hit with either one, after actions resolve they may use the other as a free action."
I believe that because Exodus' says "If he hits..." it only works once.
It might be worded differently, but it sounds like it has the same intent. If Prof/Mags can do it, Exodus should be able to pull it off too.
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Quote : Originally Posted by Harpua
Oh yeah, if they still refuse to accept what you say, the next step is to start a thread to trash the venue in the General Discussion area.
Actually Exodus' power is worded slightly different:
"PSYCHIC DOMINATION: Exodus can use Penetrating/Psychic Blast and Telekinesis. If he hits an opposing character with one of them, he may use the other as a free action after actions resolve."
Vs. the Duo's being:
"YOU'RE A MUTANT, TOO?: Professor X and Magneto can use Mind Control and Penetrating/Psychic Blast. When they hit with either one, after actions resolve they may use the other as a free action."
I believe that because Exodus' says "If he hits..." it only works once.
No because the duo says when they hit
Same thing as if they hit.
Because if either miss they don't get to use the second ability.
I don't want to play a game of chess where dumb luck or money decides whether or not I get to use a rook... Collectibility is a necessary evil of Heroclix, not a boon.
They work the same way. "If" statements are generally a yes or no check and not once per trigger types of statements. However, it is less dependent on the word used, "if" or "when", compared to the tense of the trigger. "If" or "When" something happens is a once per trigger, while "if" or "when" something is happening is a yes or no, and "if" something has happened is also a yes or no.
Umm.... Wow. Exodus just got a whole lot nastier. Potentially dealing 10 penetrating in one turn from range is pretty dang impressive.
Yeah, but he's dependent on Objects, so his Special is easier for an opposing player to control.
Still brutal, though.
EDIT: Just re-read it. It says hit, not damage. Placing an opposing character will trigger this just fine. Which is a pretty funny visual, when I think about it. I shoot you! I throw you around! I shoot you again!
Quote : Originally Posted by dairoka
I'm pretty sure Dragon has the Future keyword and Probability Control.
Quote : Originally Posted by Dragon
With the amount of times you are Ninja'd I swear you must have the Past Keyword