Her trait reads:

No More Mutants: Once per game, give Scarlet Witch a double power action and choose a team ability. Any other character that can use that team ability must roll a d6 that can't be rerolled and if the result is 1-5, that character can't use the chosen team ability for the rest of the game.

Do traits like this remain even if the character is KO'd? It says "rest of the game" - it has been my understanding that when a figure is KO'd it's traits no longer affect the game - but I can't recall one that states "rest of the game." "My understanding" of this game is usually pretty inaccurate though.

If she is KO'd does it go away?

Thanks oh high and mighty wise counsel of rules junkies.

It's for the rest of the game, so I'd say the duration continues whether she dies or not.

There is a precedent for powers that persist after a character has been KO'd or removed. However, they normally state that the effect remains even if the character does not.

The best example is GSX Sabertooth:

MORTAL WOUND: When a character takes 3 or more damage from Sabretooth's attack, that character can't heal for the rest of the game even if this power is countered or lost.

Scarlet Witch does not make that distinction, but her power does state a duration. From my understanding any power that lists a duration basically becomes separate from the source and can exist beyond said source. For this case since the power specifically state that the duration is the rest of the game then it would remain even if SW is KO'd.

Again that is just my take on it and I could be wrong.

Is there any sort of case in the past that would back up that conclusion though? Are there any traits/powers in the game that would continue even after the character has been KO'd?

I can't think of any. Maybe there are. If so, then I would think it would make sense that it continues. If not - then I don't think it would.

I'm going to jump on this thread with another question about my girl the Scarlet Witch.

Her team base power says 'This team character can use prob control.' Team bases can already use prob conrol. If you choose to use theme team prob, it would go away when this power came up. Am I missing something? It wouldn't allow them to use prob control twice, would it?

PASSING THE POWER: When Abin Sur is KO'd, choose a friendly character that's 150 points or less. For the rest of the game, modify that character's attack and defense values by +1.

And if I recall correctly I think it was ruled that Dormammu and Galactus's buffs would remain after they are ko'd, but I could be wrong. I love Abin's power because it says, bye but here keep this.

Seems like that pretty much ends it. Good call.

You are a little confused here and it is understandable.

Team bases are given an option. They can either elect to use Normal Probability Control or they can keep the ability to use Theme Team Probability Control. They cannot use both.

With what you are asking it sounds like you want to know if you elect to keep the Theme Team Probability Control option can you still use Theme Team Probability Control when Scarlet Witch is showing. The answer to that is no. The rules on Theme Team Probability Control specifically state that the character using it cannot use Probability Control from any other source.

double post. Sorry

Actually the exact opposite. It was ruled that those powers do not persist if they are KO'd Link

Good call. I guess if a power says the rest of the game is the only time it lasts for the rest of the game and the extra language on someone like Sabretooth is just a redundancy. I hate these redundancies that cause confusion like BroDoo say exactly one which has been ruled redundant, it just causes so much trouble. Anyhow thanks man. Rep

Bunker has a power similar to this.

I'm pretty sure the power is lost if she's KO'd. As Dragon points out, earlier this year it was ruled that traits that didn't specifically state that the power remains even if the character is KOd won't remain there after removing said figure from play.

There is a precedent. And that precedent has gone all over the board from Abin Sur's trait activating and immediately ending and doing nothin as soon as he is KOd all the way to Dormammu's buff lasting long after he is KOd.

I agree with you that this is the current ruling on Scarlet Witch's power. But, I would just like to remind everyone this one was never a simple answer, considering how frequently that rule has changed.

As pointed out earlier in the thread:

PASSING THE POWER: When Abin Sur is KO'd, choose a friendly character that's 150 points or less. For the rest of the game, modify that character's attack and defense values by +1.


His uses the exact same wording as SW, "for the rest of the game" - so by your logic Abin Sur's trait would be pointless because once he is KO'd his trait wouldn't be in effect.