Sorry if this has been answered in another thread.

I'm curious how the M'kraan Crystal's game effect:

M'kraan: When character would be KO'd, instead turn its dial to its last non-KO click, and then heal it of 2 damage, then remove this relic from the game.

Would be used on a figure like Obnoxio or the recently previewed Bizarro.

BAG OF TRICKS: At the beginning of the game, click Obnoxio the Clown to click #1, roll 2d6 and click his dial that many times. Whenever Obnoxio the Clown takes damage, place one Damage token on his character card for each click of damage taken. When Obnoxio the Clown has 7 Damage tokens on this character card, he is KO'd. Whenever Obnoxio the Clown would be healed or if you give an adjacent friendly character a power action, remove a Damage token from Obnoxio the Clown's character card, roll 2d6 and click his dial that many times.


ME AM NOT BIZARRO!: Bizarro costs 25 points for each Orrazib token you place on his card, up to 12 tokens. When Bizarro takes damage, remove one Orrazib token from his card. When Bizarro is healed, add one Orrazib token to his card (no more than the initial amount). When there are no Orrazib tokens on this card, KO Bizarro. At the beginning of your turn, roll a d6 and click Bizarro that many times. This ability can't be ignored.

Break it down:

When character would be KO'd
(When Obnoxio has 7 Damage tokens or Bizarro has 0 Orrazib tokens)

instead turn its dial to its last non-KO click
This I'm having trouble with, suggestions? Would they just remain on whatever random click they were on when KO'd, since that is technically the last non-KO click?

and then heal it of 2 damage
Does this count as one instance of healing? So I would remove 1 Damage token from Obnoxio and add one Orrazib token to Bizarro?
One or two? I think one.

then remove this relic from the game.
This I can understand.

P.S. Once I get that Bizarro, everyone's in trouble.

I would guess you keep it on its current click, then make 1 instance of healing for a total of 2 damage.

It's certanly only one instance of healing, so you would only remove or add one token from whichever character, if it will work at all.

There is no 'last non-KO click'. So the question I have is, without being able to complete that step, can you complete the other steps?

Or do they maybe define every click as a potential 'last non-KO click'?

Sure they have a last non-KO click. They have 12 non-KO clicks and the last of those are non-KO click #12.

Could we please have an orange on this?
It wasn't resolved in here either

i was going to refer to that one too. i still think it'll end up being that they can't use it since there are no KO clicks. i just think there is too much potential for cheating otherwise.

I totally agree with you, I would just like to have something to show the potential abusers that want to argue.

Reading the powers and rules in question, I would say that Obnoxio has two damage tokens removed and rolls to click his dial, as per his power. Bizzaro will have two orazzib token removed but not click his dial, as his power states "at the start of his turn" for turning the dial.

My only question is do you roll for each click healed, as with Support or Regen, or would the two points of healing be a single 'act' of healing? Personally, I would label it as a single act and only roll once, for Obnoxio. As Bizarro rolls at the start of his turn, again, I would rule he is not turning his dial regardless.

OK. After much discussion we have agreed that characters that have alternate methods of being KO'd, such as Obnoxio and Bizarro, would not be able to use the M'Kraan crystal as they don't have a "last non-KO click".

They would still KO even if assigned the crystal as it would not activate.

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Rep and thank you good sir. I will link this to the other thread.

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Well what about characters like Colleen wing/misty knight at 140pts? They have no KO click, but don't have special KO rules.

The crystal would put them on click 10.

The crystal isn't looking for the letters KO, it is looking for the last non KO click, or the click before defeat except in the case of Bizzaro and Obnoxio.

Shazam/Black Adam is all tied to the way he began the game. If he is played at 280 than it depends on which character you started on, so if you start with Black Adam then the crystal would bring him back on 12+2 and if you start as Shazam than he would return on 6+2. If 140 you would only use the part of the dial you opted for during construction.