Question on how colossal figures react to Greithoth's Hammer. Do colossal figures lose the colossal damage symbol when they posses Greithoth's hammer? Curious if they shrink to giants or stay colossal and "use" the giant symbol in conjunction with the colossal symbol.

from the core rulebook pg. 19
So, you lose and Colossal Stamina

But the hammer doesn't grant possession of the giant combat symbol. Does it still replace the symbols even though "can use" is not the same as "possess" or are combat symbols an exception to that?

For Heroclix purposes, "can use" = "uses" and is non-optional.
"May" is the word for optional

Does "use" and "possess" mean the same thing according to the rule book? That seems to be the crux of my confusion. If it had said posses then no issue, but it says use and I can use a power or ability while retaining my printed powers and abilities. Granted it does not say May use.

Possess and use are two different things. so in this case you could use either.

That's just flat-out untrue.

Rulebook Page 18


Here's the difference between using and possessing, same page

The Player's Guide update (Which is coming! I swear!) will change this entry to a "possesses" rather than can use.

So in this case, Greithoth's Hammer's Giant will overwrite a Colossal's Colossal Symbol. (and the benefits and drawbacks associated with the different size)

In this thread (post #19) rpgambit states that it's being discussed among the RD's and that it'll most likely be changed into a "possess" instead of a "can use". But AFAIK no such errata or final ruling has been made yet.

But I'd rule that the from the hammer replaces whatever damage symbol the character had before as it feels like that's the intent. But it does not have any support in the rules. Or the PG for that matter.

EDIT: And while I'm typing the errata is declared...

well that will clear things up nicely. been looking forward to the PG update.

Wow... This is why learning HeroClix is quite the hassle. With all the new "can use", "possesses", and resources giving such a powers and abilities that contradict each other. The players guide will be a MUST to bring to every tournament.

Thank you for the clarification.