Hi, I'm aware that the answer can be found in

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470385&page=9

but I'd like to ask the question in simple terms so me and everyone I explain it to can have a quick definitive, official answer.

My friends argue that to auto equip a hammer you must use a Power action to take a hammer off the base, THEN i can free action roll for it because of Splitlip, since Splitlips Trait stated that he turns Power actions for relic ROLLS into free actions, they say its not the right type of action.

What I am saying is that the removal from the base IS to roll for the hammer and thus my force receives no actions to equip a hammer from the base.

SO,

If I have characters on my force, 5 squares from starting, with Splitlip on the force, can I call AND equip a hammer to a character as a free action. (Splitlip makes rolling for the hammer a free action, and Book of Skulls auto succeeds rolls) Then use this character (with the hammer) the same turn, since no Power actions should be given.

Thanks.

Yes, with Splitlip, you can drop your "beginning of turn hammer", free action pick it up, and then still use that character normally. You can also give a power action to character A, to drop a hammer in character B's square (assuming he is 5 squares out of starting area), free action pick it up, then give character B whatever action you choose.

Here's the thing: picking up a hammer is ALWAYS activated by a free action.

With the Book of the Skulls, you can drop a Hammer for free at the beginning of the turn. Just drop. Then, if you want, you give the character a power action to actually get the hammer and place it on that character's card.

Then, if you wish, you can also give a character a power action to drop a second hammer. That's two hammers dropped in one turn. That second hammer can also be picked up with a power action.

So, normally, that's three power actions in total to drop and equip two hammers. So if Splitlip is on your force, you can drop and equip two hammers for the price of just one power action in total.


All Splitlip does is turn that power action to pick up and equip a hammer into a free action. Dropping a hammer still happens normally.

Yes Splitlip makes equipping a hammer that was dropped from the Book free. His power replaces the "power action" with "free action".

So if I attempt a relic roll as a free action, then fail, can I attempt again as a power action with the same character? (As long as Splitlip is on my force)

Splitlip making the Equip Hammer roll a Free Action instead of a Power Action, is no different then him making a Regular Relic Assign roll a Free Action.

All the Book of the Skulls does is allow for the roll to be automatically successful. If it were Bilbo with The One Ring Splitlip would work the same.

No, the roll for a relic is "Once per game" it does not matter if the action is free or not.

What about with the new 2014 felix rules MisterID?

Well the relic roll is no longer once per game per character. So Splitlip would let you do it once per turn as a free action.

I'm not sure, but if the "instead" means you can choose, then I would say you could free action attempt, then power action attempt if you failed.

Right, you can keep trying. Last I read they are trying to figure out if you can Free Action AND Power Action Relic Roll in the same turn with Splitlip on the table.

A player can choose to use Splitlip's effect as a Power or Free Action. You may also activate the Relic roll effect in the same turn once as a Free Action and then as a Power Action.

I think this was ruled to be an either/or option.

I think it was... in the post right above yours 3 minutes ago.

Anyway, yay I got one right, and hoo boy, prepare for more tears over Splitlip.

Can you explain why Splitlip's power is not mandatory? Why does he not make all relic rolls into free actions?

Howzzat work?

CAN use, are not required to use.

So you CAN use it as a free action and if that fails, you can use your normal power action. It works because you can now roll multiple times on a relic. Under the old rules, the first time you free action rolled, that was it, no more chances.