So this question came up in another thread but I felt it needed its own question asked

Thread in question
http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483955

So my question is this

Does blocking terrain take damage when it is destroyed or is it just removed?

My reasoning is this
pg 13

A square of blocking terrain can be destroyed by a single attack that deals at least 3 damage. When a character attacks blocking terrain, the attack automatically succeeds.

now pg 10 on dealing damage

When an attack hits, the damage dealt to the target is equal to the attacker damage value, modified by any game effects. The target takes that much damage, modified by any game effects.


The person I was debating was saying this

Terrain can be attacked and dealt damage, but attacking terrain does not have a value for damage taken.

Which is correct? Do objects 'take' damage or not?

Damage dealt that isn't reduced or ignored in some way is then taken.

As far as I'm concerned, that is.

The better question is, why do you ask?

EDIT: Okay, so I went to that thread and see now what the question is.

I'll stand by my opinion that a wall being hit then takes whatever damage it was dealt, but I'll add that I feel Thor should be amended to only promote when dealing damage to a character. Which isn't to say I don't like the image of Thor being so mad he punches a wall and then gets stronger for having done so.

They do not. Damage taken is the literal clicking of the dial. Terrain has no dial.

Ok thanks. I wasn't sure but now I am

I just got that Thor in question and was wondering if he could be used like speedball to attack walls instead of characters to activate his effect

What about pogs/horde tokens?

They can never take damage and are invincible! Stealth teal?

"Although a bystander token has combat values and follows all rules for HeroClix characters, it does not click. If a bystander token takes any damage, it is defeated."

They follow all the rules of a character, so can take damage. They can't click, so they have special rules for taking damage.

As I said in the other thread... your quote clearly states that they both do not click, and do take damage.

So if they never "take" damage, as you're suggesting, they'd never need to click.

I see where everyone's at, here, and I understand the wheres and whyfors, I'm just saying it's a bad clarification.

Taking damage is not damage taken. Damage taken is a value that is returned after taking damage. You must take damage to have damage taken.

Here is how you "take" damage
Here is what damage taken is
I can see the argument that Bystander tokens do not create a value for Damage Taken, but they most certainly can take damage. Terrain definitely does not, because it is not a character.

Not if I outwit their invincible!I have Superman Ally Team Ability. I see through your Stealth teal.

If they're invincible.... then why can I still SEE them? Superman TA

After they became invisible I painted them!