What happens if bizarro is on click #12 and an entity has a KO click on it's click #12? Would the entity be removed from the game or would I just not allowed to access the powers for that turn?

My thought would be that the entity is Ko'd, but it says it is removed when the possessor is Ko'd. So its confusing to me. Help?


I underlined somethings that related to the subject within the entity's power.



ENTITY POSSESSION: When Ophidian would be KO'd or, if you pay 25 points when building your force, place Ophidian on another friendly character's card if that character is 25 points or more, has the "fist" or "sharpshooter" symbol, the "shield" or "indomitable" symbol, and the "tiny" or "burst" symbol. That character has Ophidian's keywords and can use the Possessed ability with this character as the Possessor. When that character is KO'd, Ophidian is removed from the game.
POSSESSED: Click the Possessor's dial to the same click number as this character and change it during the game in the same way that this character's dial changes. At the beginning of each of your turns or after this character takes or is healed of damage and actions resolve, you may choose 1 power showing on one Possessor's dial and 1 combat value on one Possessor's dial higher than this character's printed combat value. This character can use that power and modifies that combat value by +1 until your next turn or until it is healed or takes damage. If the Possessor is turned to a KO click, it is removed from the game immediately.

1 of 2 options I would say.

1. Since bizarro is a special figure and has no KO' clicks. If you land on click 12 you just don't get to use any special powers or get any bonuses to stats.

2. If you get unlucky and land on click 12 bizarro is no longer possessed.

You're correct that the Entity is removed from the game if Bizarro is turned to Click #12. This interaction is quite clear as long as you remember that the Entity is the Possessor and the character it is assigned to (such as Bizarro) is the one using the 'Possessed' ability. As such, when Bizarro is turned to Click #12, and the Entity follows suit as described in the first sentence of the description of 'Possessed,' the Possessor (the Entity) ends up on Click #12, which is a KO click. As such, it is removed from the game as described in the last sentence of the description of 'Possessed.'

This is 100% correct

Stamp of Approval from the road back from Ohio.

In relation to this issue, how would characters that have KOs not on click 12 be treated in terms of determining whether an Entity would be KO'd?

Examples

asm048 Madame Web (clicks 3, 6, 9)
m10-014 Emma Frost (click 7)
tt208 Rose Wilson (click 6)

In Web's case, since the Entity is assigned during force building, and her dial is turned after her force is revealed, wouldn't she be the worst choice?

It's worth noting that if Bizarro moves from click 10 through to click 1 the entity is still removed as they are as soon as their KO click is revealed.

I don't think that there will be any extraneous issues with these dials. Although the 'Possessed' character will reveal KO clicks while turning past them as a result of their respective special game effects, they are not KO'd by doing so, and the Possessor isn't removed as it doesn't have KO clicks in these positions. That said, the likes of Rose Wilson will find it much easier to lose an Entity assigned to her if she is in her 'Activated' mode, as what is effectively her Click #5 is actually her Click #11, and most of the entities will be removed at this point.

Guess the Entities just can't handle that much crazy

Word from another thread is that someone got an E-mail saying they reversed this ruling. Can anyone in Orange confirm this?

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=142

If you want an Orange to confirm this you are better off just emailing them.

Or you can believe me when I tell you that I received the same reply.

I'll take it.

Just so I'm understanding this new ruling that you guys got,

If Bizzaro is on click 7 and you roll a 6 at the start of the turn that would put him on click 1 and therefore the Possessor would now be back on click 1 and still be in the game.

However if Bizzaro was on click 7 and you rolled a 5 at the start of the turn he would now be on click 12 which is a KO click for the possessors and the Possessor would be KO'd?

Am I getting that right?

Yup. This is 100% spot on

And your opponent scores the 25 points for it at that time.