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Can you Mind Control a figure and use its Multiattack?
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MIND CONTROL
Give this character a close or ranged combat action (minimum range value 4) that deals no damage. A successfully hit target becomes friendly to your force. Each target hit may be assigned one action as a free action, immediately after which the target becomes an opposing character again. Deal this character 1 unavoidable damage if the successfully hit targets’ combined point value is 150 points or more.
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MULTIATTACK
Give this character a power action. It can be given any 2 actions as free actions. This ability can’t be countered.
Would Mole Man be able to Mind Control Zombie Galactus... activate Multiattack-> attack twice.... then Galactus still be given power action to activate Multiattack for the turn ->attack twice?
I know a power can only be used twice during Multiattack if it is altered in some way. Like first attack EE, second attack EE with force blast. Then next time its activated it would just have to be basic vanilla ranged attacks if both attacks were ranged.
Can you Mind Control a figure and use its Multiattack?
Yes you can.
(Below is Copy and Pasted from a Different Topic with Same Question):
The one action with MC, in this case, would be the action to activate Multiattack. Now, once Multiattack is activated, the character would do all of Multiattack.
This is really no different than using Charge with a MC'd character: you move with Charge, then take the free close combat action that Charge grants.
Would Mole Man be able to Mind Control Zombie Galactus... activate Multiattack-> attack twice.... then Galactus still be given power action to activate Multiattack for the turn ->attack twice?
I know a power can only be used twice during Multiattack if it is altered in some way. Like first attack EE, second attack EE with force blast. Then next time its activated it would just have to be basic vanilla ranged attacks if both attacks were ranged.
There's nothing wrong with your scenario, but I don't think that your EE then EE with FB scenario is correct. Both of those effects are add-ons to something else. Neither is being given as a free action by itself, so you'd basically just be repeating the same thing as a free action, just with different add-ons.
I could see it being ruled differently on WIN, but at face value without something from them giving a different intent ruling, I don't see that specific combo working to override the free action rule.
Just a reminder
Damage value goes down with each attack on the turn
MC -> Multiattack
1st Att: 4
2nd Att: 3
Power Action From Galactus for Multiattack
1st Att (3rd): 2
2nd Att (4th): 1
This is my understanding unless it has been changed again
Just a reminder
Damage value goes down with each attack on the turn
MC -> Multiattack
1st Att: 4
2nd Att: 3
Power Action From Galactus for Multiattack
1st Att (3rd): 2
2nd Att (4th): 1
This is my understanding unless it has been changed again
tack this little fella on your team and no more damage depletion.
Harpua here's ruling example I was going off of.... I read another Wizkids ruling last year before they condensed the rules forum but can't find it now.
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Re: Multi-Attack
Postby zandig » Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:49 pm
hcrulesteam wrote:
Either or both free actions may be used to make a close or range attack.
BLADES/CLAWS/FANGS
When this character is given a close combat action, you may roll a d6 after making a successful attack. The result replaces this character’s damage value, then that damage value is locked.
ENERGY EXPLOSION
When this character is given a ranged combat action and deals damage, an area of effect may include all untargeted characters that are adjacent to one or more hit targets assigned at least 1 damage. Hit targets are dealt damage normally, other hit characters are dealt 1 damage for each printed on this character’s base.
Since EE and BCF are "When", triggered powers, could I choose to activate them on both of my ranged/close combat attacks made via multi-attack?
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Re: Multi-Attack
Postby hcrulesteam » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:27 pm
zandig wrote:
Since EE and BCF are "When", triggered powers, could I choose to activate them on both of my ranged/close combat attacks made via multi-attack?
Yes.
And I figure most people are aware you can make two ranged or two close attacks with Multiattack
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Re: Multi-Attack
Postby hcrulesteam » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:24 am
canaaron wrote:
Could I activate a ranged combat action with both free actions of my Multiattack even if I don't use Energy Explosion with either one?
Either or both free actions may be used to make a close or range attack.
Thanks for pointing out the Outsiders TA guys... never paid attention to it
I think the other scenario Wizkids ruled on was involving Penetrating Blast. Someone had asked if a character had Multiattack, Penetrating Blast, and EE how could those work. And they ruled you could use EE on both attacks since its triggered anytime you give a ranged action. But you could only use Penetrating for one of the attacks because you are actively giving the action to use that power.
So they ruled one attack could be Penetrating with EE, then other attack could just be EE.
Harpua here's ruling example I was going off of.... I read another Wizkids ruling last year before they condensed the rules forum but can't find it now.
And I figure most people are aware you can make two ranged or two close attacks with Multiattack
Thanks for pointing out the Outsiders TA guys... never paid attention to it
Quote : Originally Posted by jwh1981
I think the other scenario Wizkids ruled on was involving Penetrating Blast. Someone had asked if a character had Multiattack, Penetrating Blast, and EE how could those work. And they ruled you could use EE on both attacks since its triggered anytime you give a ranged action. But you could only use Penetrating for one of the attacks because you are actively giving the action to use that power.
So they ruled one attack could be Penetrating with EE, then other attack could just be EE.
I thought that you were saying that adding EE or FB would change it.
Like, I thought you were saying that something like this would be legal:
Attack 1 = PsyBlast with EE
Attack 2 = PsyBlast with EE and FB