If I call in Flash as an ID character, can I use his power to protect a friendly character even if I place him more than 5 from the character who called him in?

Once you break the five square restriction he returns to the sideline immediately.

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Since he is placed and not moved I this makes for an interesting issue. In order for him to not be with in 5 squares the placement has to occur and as soon as it occurs he will be removed. But by the time he has been removed the trigger for the effect all ready occurred, so I think the "attack misses" part of the trait would still occur just with the flash off the map.

Nice knowing ya, Dale!!

I'm guessing Dale here was a new account of another guy that just just banned.

Anyways, yes, this Flash would be able to use his trait to make an attack miss, and then get removed if he's too far away from the character who called him in. The placement and the miss happen at the same time, so the removal from the map doesn't prevent the miss.

If it was worded slightly differently, such as "you may place the Flash adjacent to the target. If you do, that attack misses....", then no, it wouldn't work. And of course, WKs can always rule that it works this way, but as written, that's not currently the case. The question should definitely be posted to the WIN, though, as I could see this being the intent.

I was always under the impression that as soon as he is removed he would trigger this clause and return to your sideline BEFORE you could place him.

@ugavine As was I.

A character that is placed is not removed from the map.

They may not answer it. It seems the concept has already been answered (in a way)

That doesn't actually answer the question at all. The issue here is that, as written, the forced miss on the attack is not dependent on him staying around at all.

Also, the difference between Movement and Placing is key here. With Movement, the game sees the piece go from each square to the next. So, yeah, the game sees the character try to move outside that 5 square radius, and the ID character goes poof. Placement, however, is instantaneous. The game can't remove the character until it is in a square that's too far away. So he still gets placed in that square, then the game removes him. There's no point in between being in square A and square B where the character can be removed.

And, yes, part of this has already been answered in the ID card thread already. The question about TK- http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....tart=30#p20747 The real question here really has nothing to do with Flash being removed. As I pointed out before, we need an intent ruling from WK's about whether that removal prevents the "forced miss" part of the effect from happening. Currently, there isn't any reason I can see that would cause that, since its all part of the same triggered effect. You don't resolve part of a trigger and stop part way through.

if the active player chooses the order of things happening,since the placement and the missed attack happen simultaneously... wouldn't they just choose the placement first, then the Flash is removed before the 'miss' can happen?

If Flash is ever considered to be placed then it doesn't matter; The effect of him being placed will happen.

The only way I see around this is that if they rule that the game detects an attempt to place him more than 5 squares away and he is removed from the game before the placement completes.

My scenario assumes that the placement would be outside of 5 squares from the character who called him in. It was already established that he would be removed mid-action. So correct me if I'm wrong: if the placement happens first, he is removed, there is no game effect to make the attack miss. Correct or no?