If I have SI assigned to a character and that character pilots a vehicle, getting placed on the vehicle's card, basically put on the sideline. Does SI's dial still turn even tho the assigned character is off the field?

Ability:
I don't see why not. Nothing says the character needs to be on the map. A few things to note:

1) If you are piloting a vehicle and you hit a character, I don't believe that would allow you to turn the dial the extra times, since the vehicle and the pilot are not the same character.

2) You cannot choose to give any of SI's abilities to the vehicle (through the pilot) since the pilot has to possess a standard attack/damage power to pass it to the vehicle. This only allows use for the pilot.

EDIT: A pilot is not placed on the Sideline, they are placed on the vehicle's card.

cool, i wasnt planning on transferring powers to the jet, but just using it to protect the pilot. My plan is to assign SI to JW060 The Joker, pop him in the Invisible Jet then keep him safe till SI can switch with him. At 50 pts i think Joker actually has more clix than SI, SI will be KO'd before Joker actually loses his final escape token.

That's brutal.

You cannot turn it.

On my phone so copy and paste is being difficult. But at least the first turn (and possibly every turn) the SI dial can be turned.

Look at the first entry under resources:

http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....87dd989#p25186

And, actually, a ruling, this strategy is perfectly legal: http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....87dd989#p26338

WIN says otherwise:

http://win.wizkids.com/bb/viewtopic....3773aee#p26338

Keep in mind if the Pilot stays in the vehicle, then you will be looking at quite a few turns (18 turns, assuming no extra clicks) before you can pull this trick off. That's generally more turns than your typical, 50-minute game has.

If you're playing at home for funsies, fine. But if you are planning on using this to win a WKO or something, it's probably not going to work.

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That is bizarre and counter-intuitive based on the off-map clarifications I quoted above.

Not with a little bit of context.


People used to try to use the off the map ruling to "cheat" on the Utility Belt.

They'd get to the click they wanted (often the +2 and Flurry click), give the character a non-free action to beat the bejeebus out of an opposing character, then use some effect (like being the Pilot of a vehicle) to prevent the end of the turn roll. So then rinse and repeat each turn and never click your Utility Belt.


That was squashed via ruling and since that time, "cost" (you did X and got benefit Y, so now do Z because of that) can't really be avoided. You can't use a trick like being a Pilot to make a resource suddenly stop working the way it is supposed to work.

Does it kind of help the Supreme Intelligence? Yes. But not overly much (see my post above about it taking 18 turns to work). And it's definitely in line with how resources are meant to function.

I get the context, but didn't the Belt trick stop working because of the clarification about triggered abilities? Clicking SI is optional, so it seems different to me.

Optional has nothing to do with it. Triggered effects can be both optional and not optional. All that a triggered effect requires is that there is... well... a trigger.

In the case of SI, the trigger is (normally) the end of the turn.

Just chiming in to clarify this. A character piloting a vehicle is absolutely not on the sideline. "Off the map" does not mean "sideline". This kind of thing can easily lead to confusion in games.