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Okay, from the new rules, it says "the top square of a set of stairs is elevated terrain." The problem I've had with this in the past is that many people disagree what "top square of a set of stairs" means in the old rules. I say it is the top square of the actual stairs terrain. Others (people where I play mostly) have said it is the top square that looks like the rest of the elevated terrain the stairs lead to. It is particularly confusing on the Marvel Starter map that has an elevated terrain square at the end of the stairs. It is further confused by the FAQ that said the top square has thick lines around it. This is not consistently done on any of the maps. Some have thick lines on all the stair squares while at least the Marvel Starter map has no thick lines.
Since it's so confusing and inconsistent, the local group of friends I play with has decided that only the squares that are the same color as the elevated terrain are considered elevated, but I don't know what the 'official' ruling would be here.
My question is:
Can a figure on top of one building shoot a figure on top of another building accross the map?
Another:
If there is hindering terrain between a grounded fig and an elevated on the edge of a building, does that hindering terrain still add to the DV of the elevated fig per the old rules?
Another:
Since the new rules say that elevated figures ignore all blocking and hindering terrain, if a grounded fig is on the other side of a different building can still I draw LOF/LOS to them with my elevated fig? Realistically, I'd say no way, but the wording of the rules makes me think otherwise....
Originally posted by Ando
My question is:
Can a figure on top of one building shoot a figure on top of another building accross the map?
Yes. Page 16 of the new rules spells it out pretty clearly. "If an attacker and its target are both on elevated clear terrain, nothing affects the line of fire except elevated hindering or elevated blocking terrain and other elevated characters." If it isn't elevated, it isn't going to be in the way.
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Another:
If there is hindering terrain between a grounded fig and an elevated on the edge of a building, does that hindering terrain still add to the DV of the elevated fig per the old rules?
No, that's pretty clearly spelled out as well on the same page. The next to the last paragraph of Elevated Terrain says, "Do not apply the hindering terrain modifier," in that situation. The only except is if the elevated target is sitting on top of hindering terrain.
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Another:
Since the new rules say that elevated figures ignore all blocking and hindering terrain, if a grounded fig is on the other side of a different building can still I draw LOF/LOS to them with my elevated fig? Realistically, I'd say no way, but the wording of the rules makes me think otherwise....
No, because the LOF crosses more than the elevated terrain square occupied by the attacker. In that example it would also cross the squares of the other building. There is no LOF between the elevated attacker to the grounded target.
Thanks Kaleko. Here's one more that I'm sure we played right, but just b/c I played by the old rules so much I'd just like double-confirmation. Figures A and B are fighting figure X. Figure X is elevated. They are set-up like so:
X
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A
B
According to the new rules, figure B can fire on figure X, despite the fact that figure A is standing directly in front of B right?
F18 is where the top of the stairs are, and he wants to put a Barrier in them, as well as E15-17. This would be legal, correct?
Also, another question:
If She-Hulk (SH) moves to F19 (the bottom of the stairs) will she still be able to make close-combat attacks with Ultron on the roof, or does she need to go all the way to the top of the stairs?
According to the new rules, figure B can fire on figure X, despite the fact that figure A is standing directly in front of B right?
I would think that figure B could not fire on figure X, given that LOF to from elevated can't cross elevated squares other than those the target or firer are in. Even if A wasn't there you couldn't shoot.
The next Indy expansion needs...SLUG MAN! With arch-enemy Paige-O-Tron, of course. And why not Captain Napalm as well?
Keleko - whoops! You are right, I had it completely backwards!
Dang you - next time make your little diagram 3D so I can tell what's going on without all that complicated reading!
The next Indy expansion needs...SLUG MAN! With arch-enemy Paige-O-Tron, of course. And why not Captain Napalm as well?