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Ok as i embark on my first couple of duels with her in the next couple of days i just wanted to know about the close calls regarding her effect. For example will she comeback after she gets bottomless trap holed?
Ok as i embark on my first couple of duels with her in the next couple of days i just wanted to know about the close calls regarding her effect. For example will she comeback after she gets bottomless trap holed?
Here are the Netrep Rulings for it
You can activate "Divine Wrath" when "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is Special Summoned by its own effect. If you do this, since its effect was negated by "Divine Wrath", "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" does not Special Summon itself by its effect again during your next Standby Phase, even though it was destroyed by a card effect (the effect of "Divine Wrath").
Pretty straightforward. Phoenix is totally negated and won't come back even though it was "destroyed".
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is Special Summoned with "Call of the Haunted" or "Premature Burial", and that card is destroyed and destroys "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" with its effect, you Special Summon "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" during your next Standby Phase because it was destroyed by a card effect.
Same thing here, unlike Vampire Lord, Phoenix will come back if it's brought back with Premature Burial or CotH since, destroying the monster and being sent to the graveyard when they're destroyed is a card effect.
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is destroyed while in your hand or Deck by a card effect, you still activate its effect during your next Standby Phase to Special Summon it from the Graveyard. (For example, if an effect like "Star Boy" is active, and "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is Summoned, and "Chain Destruction" is activated to destroy other copies of "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" in the hand and Deck, those copies will be Special Summoned during your next Standby Phase.
Basically same situation as Vampire Lord. As long as it's DESTROYED from your hand or deck, not "discarded" or "sent to the graveyard" it will come back.
If "Skill Drain" is active on the field, the effect of "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" that Special Summons it from the Graveyard is still activated, because it is activated in the Graveyard. However, the effect that destroys Spell and Trap Cards on the field is negated because it activates on the field (so "Skill Drain" and other Spell and Trap Cards on the field are not destroyed in this case).
Same thing with other graveyard activated effects. Since Skill Drain does not have power over the Graveyard, Phoenix can still come back, but it will NOT destroy the m/t cards since that effect takes place on the field.
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is Summoned, and the Summon is negated by "Horn of Heaven", it is Special Summoned during your next Standby Phase because it was destroyed by a card effect.
Pretty straightforward.
If your opponent controls your "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys", and it is destroyed by a card effect, because the effect activates in the Graveyard, it is the owner that gets the effect and Special Summons "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" during their Standby Phase.
Obvious
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is destroyed during your Draw Phase, you can Special Summon it during the Standby Phase of that same turn.
Obvious
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is destroyed and removed from play, such as with "Bottomless Trap Hole", it is not Special Summoned from out of play during the Standby Phase, because this effect activates in the Graveyard.
Obvious
If "Rivalry of Warlords" is active, and your opponent takes control of your "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" while controlling monsters that are not Winged Beast-Type, "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is not considered destroyed by the effect of "Rivalry of Warlords", but rather by a condition that made it impossible for it to exist on that side of the field. So it is not Special Summoned by its own effect during the Standby Phase.
Obvious
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is destroyed while it is not a Monster Card, such as when it is equipped to "Relinquished" or "Sword Hunter", its effect does not activate and it is not Special Summoned.
Obvious again
You can chain to the effect of "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" that destroys all Spell and Trap Cards.
Just like you can to Heavy Storm and other removal.
If "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is Special Summoned by its effect during the Standby Phase, and "Card of Safe Return" is on the field, "Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys" is Step 1 of the chain and "Card of Safe Return" is Step 2, so "Card of Safe Return" resolves first and you draw a card before "Card of Safe Return" is destroyed.
Basically like if you summon and Stumbling is on the field, sort of.
So, if you solemn judgement the phoenix, even though it negates the summon, it will come back at next standby phase and wipe everything out? Doesnt matter if the summon was negated it was still destroyed and sent to graveyard?
So, if you solemn judgement the phoenix, even though it negates the summon, it will come back at next standby phase and wipe everything out? Doesnt matter if the summon was negated it was still destroyed and sent to graveyard?
You have to remember that it does NOT state "When this card is destroyed and sent from the field to the graveyard" for its effect to activate. It merely has to be destroyed and sent to the graveyard by a card effect. Since Solemn Judgment DESTROY's Phoenix and sends it to the Graveyard, Phoenix will be able to come back. It does not have any requirement of HOW a card effect destroys it and sends it to the graveyard.
Like, whooaaa, this card is even better than I initially thought. Glad I am building a deck around it. Along with all of its little beasty friends. ahahahahaaaa, "Arise, My Phoenix, and destroy all that is in your path!!!"
well, I highly doubt the Phoenix will destroy everything in it's path......it's not THAT strong....
Please remember to include the Hand of Nephthys in that there Phoenix deck of yours. I hate seeing people just THROWING the Phoenix into every deck thinking it'll work without support.
Just wanted to state netrep has been deemed unoffical by upperdeck you are not supposed to use them. you are supposed to use their rules on there main site.
while it is true that it will not destroy everything in it's path, I can't really justify using hand of nephthys. If it was like some of the other specialty searchers, I would use it, but it is hard enough to GET two monsters on the field, much less keep them there, and then summon another, just to tribute 3 monsters for one. Pass, but I am building the deck around her. I am including some assault on GHQs to abuse her effect a little bit. I think she may be well suited for a zombie deck, I know, she isn't a zombie, but you combine her unique talents, with assault, and the zombie discarding, one never knows what might happen. great in a control deck. probably the best in it.
Actually, strife, "Hand of Nephthys' " effect requires you to Tribute it and one other Monster to Special Summon the Phoenix from your hand or Deck. Slightly more useful than you first realized, I believe.
Actually, strife, "Hand of Nephthys' " effect requires you to Tribute it and one other Monster to Special Summon the Phoenix from your hand or Deck. Slightly more useful than you first realized, I believe.
- ShadowSetoKaiba
so can u tribute a scapegoat along with the hand to get out the pheonix?
so can u tribute a scapegoat along with the hand to get out the pheonix?
Yes you can. Because the effect of Hand of Nephthys causes a Special Summon of the phoenix, you would be able to Tribute a Sheep Token and Hand of Nephthys to Special Summon Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys (just as long as you didn't play Scapegoat that turn ;) ).
yes, shadow, after re-reading the text clearly, I have come to realize the true nature of the hand of nephthys, and you are most correct, it is MUCH more useful then I first thought. I think I am going to enjoy playing this card VERY much. I see why it was limited to one, just wish I could abuse it, crazy japanese players. they never leave us any fun. buy you gotta love 'em!!!
there is another combo that can be used with the phoenix, and another reason why it was limited to one. albeit, it is only a small combo, it's a combo none the less. :(
thunder crash + phoenix
thunder crash
destroy all monsters on your side of the field. Inflict damage to your opponents life points equal to the number of monsters destroyed x 300.