Most decks today are filled with multiple copies of smashing ground, sakuretsu armor, & cyber dragon. I have one of each in my deck. Im happy that d.d. assailant was limited to one thanks to the new forbidden list.

one card that I like that a lot of people don't like is Peten the dark clown. He has some advantages going for him. He can be discarded from your hand and his effect can be activated. He can be tribute summoned and you get to summon another one( unlike troop dragon, giant germ, and nimble momonga) But unlike these cards you must remove him from play. When all the peten are gone one will remain in the graveyard( making him something you dont want to go back in your deck when you activate pot of avarice.) His def points aren't good but they are bad. His atk points suck. But even with low defense points he can be used alot of way. I give him a 3.5 out of 5

My second card that im reveiwing is Kuriboh. On the show it is widely disrespected and said to be one of the weakest monsters in the game. Having 300 atk and 200 def it is one of the weakest monsters. put it on the field and you're in trouble (especially with all these knew monster with the trample effect.) That is why you should keep him in your hand. When you're opponet thinks there going to win spring this little guy on him. Or if they have Power bond and just summoned a really strung fusion/machine spring this on them and let them take some really serious damage. I give Kuriboh a 2.5 out of 5.
P.S. Flute of summoning kuriboh will come outsometime in the future. IT was used by Jaden yuki and lets you summon one kuriboh or one winged kuriboh from your hand or deck!!

as far as kuriboh goes, its okay but not that good when it actually is in play. for peten tho, heres the deal: I'm not sure if most of the combos u r thinking of will work. I remember reading about it "missing the timing" so I think its use is more limited than you think.

1. Peten the Dark Clown isn't used that much because, in reality, he can't be used all THAT effectively like other searcher's because of the fact that he can miss the timing for his effect. Meaning you can't "abuse" him with certain effects like you could with others.

Like, if you Tribute it for a Tribute Summon, you can't remove him to Special Summon another since the last thing to happen was the Tribute Summoning of a monster, not Peten going to the Graveyard.

Or if you discard him for the cost of Magic Jammer, Tribute to the Doomed, etc. The last thing to happen there is the card effects, not Peten going to the Graveyard.

So, no, many of your examples do NOT work with Peten the Dark Clown.


2. Kuriboh isn't used that much either because

A.) You lose 1 card just to stall from an attack when you could do MUCH better with Waboku

B.) It only works on one attack which, in which case, Waboku ALSO does better.

C.) It does not get rid of the threat like Sakuretsu Armor can. All you do is stall and the monster will probably still be there to attack again if you don't get rid of it.

Kuriboh has one thing going for it...it is the best sidedeck card against Stein.

Peten just misses his timing too much.

Peten is very good in this format. Let's look at it like this...

Will you get another tomato or Nimble if you tribute it off? No, so peten missing his timing doesn't really matter.

Will you get another angel or germ if you discard it for Jammer or Tribute of the doom? No, so Peten missing his timing doesn't really matter.

Will you get another Howling Insect or Mother Grizzly if it's blown up by NoC f/d? No, you don't get one with peten either, but he would have most likely been removed anyway so it doesn't really hurt the synergy of the deck all that much.

Will you get a peten if it is destroyed in battle? Yes.

Destroyed by Mirror Force or smashing? Yes.

Discarded for Graceful Charity? Yes.

Discarded By Magical Merchant? Yes.

As long as Peten going to the Graveyard is the last thing to happen. If Peten is destroyed and then your opponent chains to the destruction, as long as Peten being destroyed is Chain Link 1, you will get his effect.

# If "Peten the Dark Clown" is destroyed in a chain and not as Chain Link 1, his effect does not activate. (Example: "Pot of Greed" is activated and "Ring of Destruction" is chained, targeting "Peten".)

Peten is very underrated because of the missconception of "missed timing". I have been running Peten in my tournament deck and have yet to miss his timing. Just like any other card, it's all about how you play it.

You're right, you don't get another one of those monsters, just like you don't get another Peten. The problem is, those are all terrible plays, so saying they are the same as Peten doesn't prove that he is good.

Yes, but you can generate field advantage in this format, which is so important with Peten. Ofcourse the examples of how peten doesn't work are bad, but you say nothing of the examples of how peten does work.

Peten with GC gives you +1 to field. Peten with Merchant gives you +1 to field. How many times does Zaborg or Exiled blow up a f/d monster. Peten basicly counteracts the advantage that your opponent is trying to get.

In the end, it works for me, my play style. Say it's bad all you want.

You're right, my bad.

1. There are better options. (Tomato, Rat, Nimble, etc)

2. Please don't try to tell me that you play against people so bad that they would Mirror Force or Smash a Peten.

3. There are better options. (Night Assailant, Dark World)

4. This is a cool trick, but since it is nearly impossible to setup, it relies on lucksacking.

Against Zaborg, Peten is godly, against Exiled, Sand Moth is a better choice.


Peten isn't a bad card, but there are very few things it can do that something else can't do better. That combined with the fact that the few things that would make it superior make it miss the timing instead make Peten subpar at best.

I liked Peten for my spellcaster deck i had awhile back, it was easy sacrificing, other than that it's a good addition to any deck that needs constant tribute.

So let me get this straight, Peten is subpar at best because...

-If you're looking for searchers that are destroyed in battle... Nimble, Tomato, Rat, Etc. are better. Ok, I agree.

- If you're looking for something to dump with Graceful... Dark World and NA are better. You're right again.

- Yeah, Sand Moth would work better if destroyed by exiled f/d.

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but do any of those work in all 3 situations? Not that I'm aware of.

Would someone Smash or MF a Peten? Nah..., it was just an example of what works with peten. With his 1200 def, they'd just atk him. Either way you get his effect.

- Yeah, with 3 in a deck, dropping him would be lucksacking... Just like dropping a light and a dark with Sorcerer in your hand.

In the end, like I said, it all comes down to your playstyle. What works for me, might not work for you. Look at the last SJC decks.. Even though most were Chaos, they all were custom to that player's playstyle. Like Peten or not, I was just giving the oppisite side of "he's bad because he misses his timing".

Well its Peten.

I truly don't care for the card. Sure, card advantage is great, but lets get serious. If card advantage was only because of cards, then everybody would be running Weenie normal monster. They got Backup Soldier( +2), Dark Factory of Mass Production(+1), and Emisarry of the Afterlife( Nice Searcher). And while they are great( I wrote an article on Normal monsters, if anyone wants the link, LMK) not everybody uses them because even though Card Advantage is great, there are certain limitations. If you have 20 cards in your hand, and they are all tributes and Trap cards while Jinzo is on the field, then they are useless. If you have peten just because its a meat token, then please run scapegoats. Its 4 meat shields. Also, your Merchant combo, i am not sure if that works. If you discard him, wouldn;t the last thing is getting the M/T thus missing Peten timing?

Well, to answer your question on Merchant, here's the post from the Judge's board...

As for your statement.... meat token.... Maybe, at times and for that purpose, goats is better. But goats can't be tributed or can they thin your deck? In the right Deck Peten can be useful just as the normal support you commented on is for a normal deck

True.

I comment you on proving this point. Basically, you are correct. You have to personally evaluate the question of versatility vs. effectiveness. Is it better to use a card that is mediocre, but usable, in many situations, or a card that is awesome in one situation, but useless in others? I think the only correct answer is that is depends. Meh, I'll playtest Peten.

For the first time ever, Im going to take sides with jpmoney.

Peten MAY be useless on the surface, but he has potential. The trick is to build a deck that accomodates those special conditions rather than avoid him because he doesnt fit with out typical cookie ideas.

if you make a deck that takes advantage of RFG monsters, or relies on monsters constantly being available on the field, Peten works. Monarch can use him as a chump blocker that creates a tributable later on. An extra (but handicapped) Tomato, if you will.

There are uses we are obviously overlooking, but I must commend jpmoney for actually looking at the card and attempting to find a use for it. I know I gave up once I realized it doesnt work with Cannon Soldier.

It's not overlooked simply because of the whole cookie issue...it's the whole missing the timing issue which prevents it from being used for anything BUT possible tribute fodder. Only a few cards can really use its effect without causing it to miss its timing at all.