Im not sure if this has been said before, but we all know about the Future fusion combo with exodia, but i read the card translations, and it occured to me...

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Future Fusion
Permanent Magic
Choose Fusion materials from your deck for a Fusion monsters and send them to Graveyard, and choose a Fusion monster from your Fusion deck. At the 2nd of your Standby Phase after this card is activate special summon that Fusion monster onto your field (this special summon is treated as Fusion Summon). When this card is not on the field, destroy that monster. When that monster is destroy, destroy this card.


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Overload Fusion
Normal Spell
Remove from play, from your side of the field or your Graveyard, Fusion Material Monsters that are listed on a Dark Machine-Type Fusion Monster Card, and Special Summon that Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon).
Rare


Play Future Fusion, send about 15-20 Machines to the Graveyard targeting Chimeratech Over Dragon for Special summon, then play Overload Fusion, removing 1 "Cyber Dragon" sent to the graveyard by Future Fusions effect, and 14-19 other machine type monsters from the game , to special summon Chimeratech Over Dragon with an attack of 12,000- 16,000 and attack for game, obviously this is on the second turn, but it turns out we have a new OTk on our hands, unless ive misread the effect of each of these cards.... thoughts?


oh, and its rediculous for people to say its imposible for this to happen, if people can run a 50 card deck with 3 traps ( Magical Explosion ) and still pull of a win... then this is highly possible..

Half and I had a discussion on this.

For 1, Future Fusion will kill Chimaratech when it comes to the field. Secondly Overload fusion still requires that you hve 15 Machines in thegrave, so thats kinda in the late game. Even then, Sak and other thigns still happen. Cyber Stein seems more viable.

Secondly, Future Fusion i can see great for Deck Thinning. Mixing it maybe with HotA Exodia. something like

26 Machiens Normal Monsters.
3 Reloads
3 Hota
5 pieces of Exodia
3 Future Fusions

what are "hota" refering to?

hmm. lol

Heart of the Underdog= HotU I got it confused with RotA lol.

Anyhow Half also says there a ruling specifically made that you couldnt use future fusion with Chimaratech( because of Deck Thinning. Keep in mind Chimaratech + Future Fusion = Chimartech Dying becauseof effect.)

I'm not 100% sure about rulings. Just stuff I saw talked about BECAUSE of the massive deck thinning Chimeratech Over Dragon can cause.

Wouldn't surprise me if they DO rule something on it though like...it can't be used because of an indefinite number of Fusion Material Monsters for Chimeratech or something like that.

so apparently no one understand what i meant.... when u play future fusion u arent summoning chimeratech that turn, it says on ur 2nd standby phase after activation, u play future fusion just to send machines to the grave to use Overload Fusion with, Overload fusion special summons Chimeratech, future fusion at this point isnt needed AT ALL because its only purpose was to send machines to the grave, use overload summon chimeratech and atk for game, ....

so the person who said its late game when u have 15 monsters, NO, future fusion speeds this up...thus the OTK....

i.e. you are never attempting to use Future fusion to summon chimeratech just to send machines to the grave...

Still, the chances are a bit slim unless you build a Deck with nothing but Machine's with 3 Future Fusion, 3 Overload Fusion and 3 Magical Merchant really (that's what my Future Fusion-based Deck is about with Chimeratech that I have planned)

Trying to use Chimeratech with Exodia is retarded.

1x Cyber Dragon + 4 other Machines => COD gets 4000 attack. Throw in a Limiter Removal into the equation.

1x Cyber Dragon + 9 other Machines => COD gets 8000 attack.

Is there a need to use Exodia???

If you want to use it more creatively, yes...

Future Fusion and Chimeratech strategies are not just for themselves...they can be used in other Decktypes for more interesting styles that can still possibly win.

Even together, Chimeratech only kills itself upon summoning because of sending everything on your field to the Graveyard.

Couldn't you just have more than 1 Chimeratech Over Dragon in your Fusion Deck or does it apply to all monsters of that name?

Chimeratech Over Dragon isn't restricted at all...so....unless it happens to end up like that...you can have up to 3 in the Fusion Deck...

Sorry I didn't specify, but I meant for the Future Fusion + Overload Fusion thing.

They're both completely different cards...

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Overload Fusion
Normal Magic
Remove from play, from your side of the field or your Graveyard, Fusion Material Monsters that are listed on a DARK, Machine-Type Fusion Monster Card, and Special Summon that Fusion Monster from your Fusion Deck. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon).
Rare/Ultimate Rare

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Future Fusion
Continuous Magic
Select one monster from your Fusion Deck. Send all Fusions Material Monsters needed for that monster from your Deck to your Graveyard. During your 2nd Standby Phase after activation, Special Summon the selected monster to your side of the field. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon). When this card is removed from the field, destroy the monster. When the Special Summoned monster is destroyed, this card is also destroyed.

So, could you perform the OTK with Chimeratech, or am I just reading things wierd?

With BOTH cards, yes...since with just Future Fusion, the summoned Chimeratech will take 2 turns to come out and even when it does, it kills itself when it sends Future Fusion to the Graveyard AND if the opponent's field is clear to give a direct hit...