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ok so i know the D boards were rampant with disscussions on this but as i dotn spend much time there anymore i thought i would bring up a question here.
Jack Wilgress says each time a power step ends if you have 21 power destroy all opponents units, the Katal inciter says when you win a battle take the top card of your used pile into hand. which action would go off first would it depend who had initiative? because the winner of the battle is determined in the power step, just not too sure on that one.
That's how I would rule. The battle victory isn't decided until after the power step. Once the power step happens, each player gets the option to use card abilities. If it's Quay's turn, you get to take the card. If it's Maverick's turn, all of the opposing cards are destroyed, and are no longer available to perform abilities from.
yes but how does initiative work with that say i have 3 inciters there, every time i take an action i retain initiative so could i do all 3 before getting popped by wilgress or do these go on the stack and does the last one on take effect first because if so i would just pass and wait for him to use his text before using mine so i can draw cards before my guys get destroyed. i dont think there is a stack in the actual steps and so i dont know how the reactions work but you could be right we alternate taking reactions if so that makes sense would just be good to know for sure
The winner of the battle is determined during the Power Step. At this point the Katal Inciter would be triggered. Jack Wilgress's ability is triggered "each time a power step ends here". So he would go off after any Katal Inciters have been used.
I disagree. As long as the power step isn't over, there is an opportunity for both players to play abilities or interrupts that may modify their power total. I would argue that a battle "win" (which is what the Inciter requires) doesn't occur until the power step is completely over.
I disagree. As long as the power step isn't over, there is an opportunity for both players to play abilities or interrupts that may modify their power total. I would argue that a battle "win" (which is what the Inciter requires) doesn't occur until the power step is completely over.
Well, first off, neither player may play abilities or interrupts that may modify their power during the power step. The rules specifically prevent the playing of interrupts or abilities during a step. If you want to modify your power, the time to do so is before the power step.
Second (and I'm pulling this from p.23 of the Incursion Rulebook, if anyone wants to check), the rules specifically call for the winner to be determined during the power step. A step cannot end until all mechanics required by that step have been completed. Therefore, the winner of the battle must, by definition, be determined before the end of the power step.
With that said, they just made battles a lot more confusing in my opinion. But, okay. :)
It's like this:
Actions and abilities
Battle Destiny Step
Actions and abilities
Attrition Step
Actions and abilities
Power Step
Actions and abilities
Loss Step
Actions and abilities
End Step
You can't use actions or abilities during a step unless they specifically say so. :)
You can use actions or abilities during a step unless they specifically say so. :)
I believe you meant to say "can't," right?
It should be noted that you're talking about "activated abilities," right?
Also, while we're talking about abilities, maybe you can clear this up for (since it's something that's always been a little fuzzy for me):
Say I have a unit in a battle with text that says something like "Whey you draw a battle destiny > 4 in a battle here, do X," then before you do anything else (unless there's another competing triggered ability that also has the same trigger) you'd resolve that ability, correct? And if there was a competing triggered ability, the player whose turn it is would choose the order in which they resolve?
It should be noted that you're talking about "activated abilities," right?
Also, while we're talking about abilities, maybe you can clear this up for (since it's something that's always been a little fuzzy for me):
Say I have a unit in a battle with text that says something like "Whey you draw a battle destiny > 4 in a battle here, do X," then before you do anything else (unless there's another competing triggered ability that also has the same trigger) you'd resolve that ability, correct? And if there was a competing triggered ability, the player whose turn it is would choose the order in which they resolve?
Is that correct? Thanks, chief!
Yeah, I fixed that typo in my post. My bad...again. That's 2. :(
As for your question:
Yes, if I understand you correctly, you're right. If something gets triggered, you do it right away. If 2 or more things get triggered, the person whose turn it is gets to decide the order in which they resolve (or, more precisely, the order they are put on the stack). Triggered abilities go on the stack immeditately, before anything else may be put on the stack.