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This came up in a game I played during the Finders Keepers Storyline.
I played Rooster as one of my cached 'Mechs, as did my oppo. I opened a cache and selected my own Rooster. Later, there was only one cache left, and it was the other Rooster. I made the roll to open it, succeeded, and the BM ruled (correctly, I believe) that it was eliminated. The issue of who got the points for that was a little fuzzy. He recalled reading that points for Bypassed (which is the essence of what happened) duplicate Uniques went to the Bypassing side. He searched the rulebook for quite a while, but couldn't find any mention of it.
if you already had the pilot, but not the mech, then you could play the mech but the pilot could not have been "unlocked" you were playing purely with the mechs stats and that was it.
if you had the mech already, the chace was considered empty and no one got points for it.
I don't think Rooster could have been taken out of the pool so I'd have treated it as a failed roll. Elimination's a tad harsh ...
I think I would have ruled that you simply could not open the cache. If I'm not mistaken (Help me Kotch! Help me Tom Cruise!), you simply can't use Bypass on a unique that is already in your battle force.
Tom Cruise? Now that's someone with a rather strange appetite. But enough about that. Now it may not have been possible in this specific case, but in general it is possible to bypass a Unique unit after capturing it, right? Just a question that popped up in that blunt object that I like to call my head.
yes Nanhold you can bypass a unique but not if the same unique figure is already in your battleforce.
though i still find it weird that unique figs with diff sculpts but with same name can be played purely based on figures number.
examples. jaq pejinco, paladin jonah levin-solitude-jonah levin, ana K SW- ana KWH, Katana DF- Katana HK. etc.
Tom Cruise? Now that's someone with a rather strange appetite.
For those who didn't get the reference, he's adapting from a scene in 'Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby,' a movie coming out sometime soon starring Will Ferrell.
To translate into normal-speak, he's asking for assistance from higher powers, though by comparing Kotch to Tom Cruise, I could definitely see the potential for an insult. :classic:
Wow, I must have made a really obscure reference, since even I didn't know that it had something to do with the movie Sho-nuff mentioned. Sho-nuff must know me better than I know myself... now I'm scared.
But let's get back on track. We were talking about the impossibility of using identical Uniques in one and the same army. Looks like all questions were correctly answered.
its say they cant be in the same battle force and when you bypass you dont add it to your battle for one of your little soldier dudes take it over like in the star wars movie where chubaca(is this the right spelling i dont think it is) goes in the AT-ST and takes over so i say it be allowed and for the simple fact that it makes no sence not to be able to take over a single mech out of every other mech on the field when the only diffirence is a small symbol and a rule that may or may not apply
The rule applies. It has even been clarified by the Rules Arbitrator. You are not allowed two of the same Unique in your battleforce at any time. If you try and Bypass it, then it is an illegal order.
It's one thing capturing an AT-ST, it's quite another capturing a Millenium Falcon when you already have one...