is there an army that can beat almost any type of army? An army that can beat fling n ping,deathstar, guerilla tactic army? is it possible to make this kind of army?? pls help.. what type of army should i go with in a tournament? hate army??:confused:

I'd recommend against a hate army for any tournament, unless you know for a fact that a certain type of army will be played a lot.

Other than that, I'd take the army you win the most battles with. Don't try to use anything new to you.

There are no all-powerful army types, The ones mentioned on these forums are just a handfull of suggestions to what is an infinite variety of armies. I played at a tournament where a man had a mostly Krugg army with Magus in it. Does it fit the typical army type that you'd find on these boards? No. Did it fare well in game play? Yes. Why? Because he played very defensive when he was out-manned and very aggressive when he had action control, The army was Average at best, The tactics employed by the player were flawless and he won the tournament.

The army was:
2-***Hatchetkrugg
2-***war Impaler
Krugg seer
Magus
and an Imp.

ouch. That is a very point-efficient army.

ML ram is a potent combo.

So is there are any that can beat the fab 4-
ML
KI swarm
Artillerst
A.G. Cheese

no there is no such thing.

they're call the swiss-knife army. which composes of a charger, ram, a quickness fig and an anchor fig. not much of those armies are posted nowadays.

but there are lots of variables are floating about in building an army. look at your armybuilder program or something and analyze your figs... you might get something outta them and try to make them mesh and compliment each other (and also according to your strategy).

OOPman's observation to the necro judge is very nice, and you'll be able to know why a fig has the stats he has along with the points.

oh dear jebus, I thought my campaign against swiss had succeded ;).

But swiss handles most of the top armies decently, really having no bad match-up.

I will post an example in a sec.

That's a very loose grouping of army types,

ML: anything with a ML figure falls into this?

KI swarm: vast combinations of figs/formations do not an archetype make.

Artillerist: old hat.

Burnt cheese: anything enhanced falls into this?

Winning armies are not limited to any particular formula, if that were the case I could just say "Is there any army out there that can beat tha big O !!"

The big O simply being "offense based".

Are there any armies that win because they don't fight?

If you said yes then there are two, repeat TWO army archetypes in Mage Knight.

I've beaten all four with Swarm/Charge FYI. ;)

People still play artillerists?

I thought they learned when I constantly fried them with a Scorpem gunner plus some suroks...

42up - Where's F&P in the list? Don't tell me you stopped pimping it out???

The best types of armies out there are not the ones that have good match ups against certain armies( hate armies) but the ones that try to minamize there bad match ups and are played by strong players. A flexible army will do much better in a tournament than an army based around a particular tactic. Also being able to outrange or outmanuver your opponent is very important. This is why ML is so widely used.

just felt the need to top you borg:

As have I with my army as well as swarm charge....

no reason to reiterate common sense ;).

Actually though, I just categorize it under ML. ML is a vast category not as limited as the other 3.

Can I have an example of a Swiss army?

Go to releases and look at Borgs Revenant Priest Army, It was a great thing.

something swiss tastic-(from my KI swarm primer, pre-UL)-

Neophant
*** Fell Reaper
* Mancatcher
**dwarven ram
*shade
***screeching terror (or ***temple blademaster or *fell reaper or *war krugg on yak or a ***amotep gunner/shade, this is really the Meta game spot of the Swiss)


Something more modern-
***nightmare reaper
**dwarven ram
**mancatcher
**mancatcher
***scorpem gunner
*light cavalier