I have been playing mage knight for a few months and have been buying as many as i can, but i dont have the art of army creation down yet maybe some help?

heres what i have

Elemental
crystal sprite **(2) *(2)
tanglewood spirit *(1) **(1)***(1)
woodland scout***(1)
woodgolem *(1)**(1) ***(1)
crystalbladesman **(1) ***(3)
trollbrawler ***(1) *(1)
unicorn bladesman *(1)
mendingpriestess *(1) **(1) ***(1)
centaur lietenant *(1)
wildmountaintroll ***(1)
sithlith tracker ***(1) *(1)

Ki
Paladin Prince
Standard bearer ***(1)
temple blademaster **(1)
immortal fanatic *(1)
squire*(2)
deepwood sentinel *(1)
shield wall knight ***(1)
liege knight**(1)

orcs
Slasher *** (1)
tribal brute * (1)
goblin voleenteer***(1)
goblin cannibal *(1)
cavebutcher *(1)
necroplis
nightmarebanshee *(1)
lurker *(1)
graverobber (1)

Bpr
khamish fuser *(1)
khamish freelancer *(1)
amazon blademistress *(1) **(1)
huntsman * (1)

atlantis
whirling golem* (1) **(1)

mage spawn

ki devil **(1)
shade*(1)
kruggheaver ***(1)

please help me it would be mutch appreciated

Alright MK Man, here's a 200pter I threw together. It's not the most amazing army I have ever seen, but if your figures were my collection, I would start here.

Formation
3x *** Crystal Bladesman
Mending Priestess

Loners
* Shade
** Ki Devil
* Sislith Tracker on Sislith
* Unicorn Bladesman on Unicorn

Throw up some blocking. Use the shade to get the Crystal Bladesmen into base contact. Push to WM, formation or not, and heal up with the priestess. The KI Devil is nice for recon work into enemy territory alone - he's better than the red in my opinion. Use the mounted figures liberally, and rush over for healing when needed. Let me see what I can do in the 300pt range for you next.

Bri

P.S. The single most important thing I tell new players is this: keep your army together. There is strength in numbers - don't send half one way, half the other. Stay together. If you send the Ki Devil out on it's own, be careful. Everyone else should be close enough together to help each other. If you remember this one thing you will beat a lot of other new players, and some more experienced. Oh, and if your opponent isn't doing this, take advantage of it and kill the strays.

Thanks!!! ill try this out when i get a chance and at the local hobby shop they play 300 so i hope you or someone else could take a shot at it thanks again:) :) [ag] [ag]

I'd use 2 type of swarms to fir in 200 points like this:

IK:

Paladin Prince (Neat command) 71 points
Standard Bearer *** 15 points
Liege Knight ** 26 points
Inmortal Fanatic * 23 points

EL:

3x Crystal Bladesmen *** 51 points


Shade * 12 points

2 points left (198)

Kindakous, You and I are meeting up a lot today! I like your army. I thought about doing something with the standard bearer, too. The problem is, the Immortal Fanatic, weak, is pretty bad. If it was blue, I'd say go for it. Otherwise, how about this?

Drop the immortal fanatic. And the shade. Add in the ** temple blademaster (nasty dude), and the *** goblin volunteer.

Rush in to base with the new SB crew, and then bring in the crystal blades? I dunno, for both armies, I like having a healer, and this one doesn't, but I could see it doing quite well.

Bri

Lol! you are right i was just checking the * IF and it's not really good, and your suggestin is very cool. So the army would be this:

Paladin Prince
Goblin Volunteer
Standard Bearer
Temple Bladesmaster

3x Crystal dudes

Yah it's more flexible and tougher, good suggestion dfazman!

Likewise MKman, I took a stab at building you a 200 point army and here's what I came up with :

200 points
2x ***Crystal Bladesmen
** Crystal Bladesmen
*** Sislith Tracker
* Sislith Tracker
* Unicorn Bladesman
* Mending Priest

What you could do is keep the priest with the sisliths, and move up at 5 inches at a time in formation. So first formation is

*** Tracker ]
* Tracker-----------------Formation 1
* Mending Priest ]


Start doing hit and run missions with the Sislith trackers - do damage - push - breakaway and get healed etc...
Set up 15 inches away from the target with trackers. (Since they can bound 5 and then shoot 10 inches.) You usually want to pound the same target with both trackers in one turn so it's weaker and has a harder chance retaliating. Make sure to attack with the red one first since it's attack is higher (Sorry if you know all this basic stuff, but I don't know how new to the game you are)

Keep the Unicorn Bladesman with the Crystal bladesmen.

So second formation is

2x *** Crystal Bladesmen ]
** Crystal Bladesman--------- Formation 2
* Unicorn Bladesmen ]

They can move 7 together, so it's not that bad. You'd probably want to keep the crystal bladesmen in front of the unicorn bladesman so it can be safe from shots and be free to charge when ready.

Got all that? :) Hope I helped man, and good luck with the army if you want to try it out. If you need strategy tips feel free to pm me and ask.

thanks agian i hope i get a chance to try them all and the army with the paladin prince does have a healer the paladin

Well a new guy not afraid to ask for help. Just to help you with the armies tactics...
The Standard Bearer's FM gives the KI formation a speed of 12. Basically, you can base a warrior (or formation of) who has a range of 12 in. That is because a LOS is drawn to the target's CENTER DOT, not the edge of his base (that adds like a inch and a half). To move b2b, you only have to move to your enemies edge of base to be considered b2b and therefore can make a close combat attack. For you particular army, I'd recommend you use the KI formation against your opponents main formation. Then you can bring your bladesmen to bear on either that formation (to add extra attack power) or send them against his support figs.

I hope this helps. GOOD LUCK and welcome to MK.:)

PS
Please excuse any mistakes I made in the swarm tactics. I don't ruetinely play a swarm army.

Let's try 300!

Formation or Loner Group:
* Sislith Tracker
*** Sislith Tracker (What's the range on this guy?)
*** Mending Priestess

With this formation, move up outside opponents range. Bound in for the first shot, but don't have them touching each other. After that, leave them there and heal with the Priestess periodically.

Formation #2:
x3 *** Crystal Bladesman
** Crystal Bladesman

Clean up crew/melee fighters. If there are any melee warriors, base them with the shade while you advance these guys. Leave range to the Sisliths.

Loners:
* Shade

Use him to tie up enemies so your bladesman can base them.

Exactly 300 :) Have fun, and I'd recommend investing in some Sinister boosters.

we did a 300 point battle between 11 people i got second place using shadow deaths army with the other 100 points filled by** ki devil *** mending priestes
*shade skele archer goblin volenteer *** and khamish fuser *

while i was there i got ashell the driver le standard bearer one red shield wall knight one yellow shield wall knight and two * noble archers

next time i want to use the extra points better do you have any advice on changes to make to make it better against ranged attacks because thats all anyone uses at the venue i go to thanks for the help and if possible try to include some of the knight:D :D

Hey MkMAN where is your venue in London? I might be able to come up from Goderich and play there.

its imperial hobbies they usualy play using a 300 point format
we play on sundays the store is at oxford streat east near richmord street there is long running tournaments that use a campaing system where you get territories that let you do different things like a forest gives you 2 hindering or a mountain gives you a dragon you can use it starts at around 1:00 the person who runs it is called andy there is around maybe 16-20 people who come most of them are Under 15
Hope to seee you there some time

Archer - that's only 200 and thats excatly the same army I created for him.

Mk man - for 300? I dunno. Just fill it in with like the ki devil and your banshee + whatever else makes it 300. Maybe a shade or something.

ok thanks for all the help i want to test out a different army on sunday:) [ag] :)