MK is a ton of fun and a great game in all but does anyone else think it is too unrealistic. I mean cmon I can deal with fantasy and stuff nut atlantis and BP should rule the game. They are much more high tech but they should be a lot more points. Even a draconum would have a hard time beating up on machines I dont know I just think they need to change the standards in the future

PLEASE tell me you're not trying to bring reality into a game with Dragons, magic, undead, trolls, dwarves, elves, and pretty much anything else in MK. PLEASE tell me you're not that silly.

Can't forget about the Orcs... cause everyone knows that Orcs are real. ;)

Orcs aren't real! Those are goblins wearing green metal armour!

i'm not trying to bring reality but I just think that they should alter it because machines would kick a knight's @$$ so they should be better but more points

I'm sure a 25th century robot would kick butt on some guy with a sword or a pike. But would a hybrid technology/magic construct made by wizards in a time when gun powder had just been invented be of the same caliber as the robots you see in your favorite sci-fi movies? I'm thinking not.

Oh god...

It's a game! Why must you be so critical?

the way i see it, storm golems and steam golems would be a pretty powerful NOWADAYS, and against some poor fool with a sword and shield? unstopable!

who reloads a steam golem's cannon? were is the spare ammo? WHO CARES ABOUT A STEAM GOLEM'S CANNON?

Yeah, if it was just taking pot shots at the guy from range, he'd be kind of outta luck if it was very accurate. But up close, he could probably run circles around a hulking behemoth like that and would have an advantage...provided he didn't end up as robot toe jam. One thing you are overlooking is that a robot based purely on technology would be computerized and most likely be very accurate due to targetting software. But these are very simple constructs run by steam power or magestones. They are probably only capable of very rudimentary and limited actions.

Ever read Doc Bedlam's story, the Palanquin? Around when they first brought the Palanquin into battle, the forces consisted of Blade Golems on one side and Steamers on the other side. The golems had to be given basic orders, and wouldn't stop what they were doing until told to. So on the field the Steamers and Blades passed each other without acknowledgement.

I think Bedlam made a good idea of what Golems did...

I never read that story, but it hits my nail right on my head. They do not have intelligence and and cannot react to a change in circumstances. So a knight chopping at it's legs might go unnoticed until the golem was given a new order. They may be powerful, but they are also very simple constructs with inherent weaknesses.

Well I don't know about you, but my steamers certainly notice oncoming blade golems and knights attacking their shins.

Fiction and gaming are two separate things.

That's not true. The golems don't notice it, you as their general notice it and give your golem a new command. If you didn't the golem would just stand there and get whacked, both in fiction and in the game. ;>

...except for that one battle where my army had a civil war and they all just jumped out of their box and slaughtered each other. The steamers seemed pretty sentient then, but that might have been the mushrooms I was eating.

Yeah, mushrooms and war don't mix. Pretty soon you've got disembodied cheshire grins and your Magic cards want to get in the way playing croquet.