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Originally posted by Silver Lantern If I have a figure diagonal with an indoor blocking wall, can my other figure shoot through the diagonal space between the fig and the wall?No.
And can a figure move through that space inbetween a fig and a wall.No if they are opposing.
Even if they can't move through the space between a fig and a wall, can they move through the friendly figure adjacent to the wall.
Yes.
What if that friendly figure is on a hindering square?No.
Then does the fig have to stop immediately after exiting? Before
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Friendly figures can move thru each other's squares (normally), as long as they don't END their movement in the occupied square. They don't have to go in between the figure and the wall... they can just leap-frog over their own teammate.
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
I think I can answer your questions as such, I believe that the figure and the wall are considered blocking, your opponent cannot fire through the diagonal. I believe that your opponent cannot move through this area, unless they have L/C, Flight, Phasing, or HSS.
I am sure that if I am mistaken, that someone will come and help me out.
Originally posted by Silver Lantern I CANNOT move through MY figure who is in hindering?
If you do not have a terrain-ignoring power, then you have to stop when entering hindering terrain from a clear square. If there is a friendly figure on that first square of hindering terrain, you cannot enter or pass over the friendly figure's square. If you start in and are moving through hindering terrain without leaving the hindering terrain and you need to pass over a friendly figure who is ALSO in the same hindering terrain, then you CAN do that.
In my day, we didn't have Heroclix. If you were being attacked by Superman with a 3d dumpster, you just had to hope you could outrun him.
Thanks for clarifying this guys, we were in the middle of a game. Here are some other questions that came up during the games tonight.
Can PHOENIX TK her friendly figure MARROW in the setup below if LOGAN and the Blocking WALL are diagonal inbetween them, as long as Phoenix has LOS to where Marrow is going?
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PL
B= blocking wall
M= Marrow
L= Logan
P= Phoenix
What if LOGAN was an opposing fig? Could PHOENIX still TK MARROW?
What if there was no was there, but Logan was an opposing fig; could PHOENIX TK Marrow if PHOENIX is in Base contact with an opposing figure?
THANKS AGAIN.
Last edited by Silver Lantern; 12/31/2003 at 02:45..
Quote : Originally Posted by mbauers
Ok, so this game's finally over?
Who the eff daykilled me back to back days? Seriously.
Originally posted by Silver Lantern If I have a figure diagonal with an indoor blocking wall, can my other figure shoot through the diagonal space between the fig and the wall?
SL
No. For Line of Fire purposes, that diagonal is blocked by the two occupied adjacent squares.
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Originally posted by Silver Lantern
And can a figure move through that space inbetween a fig and a wall.
Yes, provided the figure is friendly.
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Originally posted by Silver Lantern
Even if they can't move through the space between a fig and a wall, can they move through the friendly figure adjacent to the wall.
Yes, under normal circumstances you can move through friendly bases.
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Originally posted by Silver Lantern
What if that friendly figure is on a hindering square?
Then does the fig have to stop immediately after exiting?
You must observe normal rules regarding hindering and stop immediately unless you can fly, phase, or leap climb. If you do not have these powers and cannot continue through the hindering terrain or stop immediately then you are effectively blocked from entering.
Originally posted by Silver Lantern Thanks for clarifying this guys, we were in the middle of a game. Here are some other questions that came up during the games tonight.
Can PHOENIX TK her friendly figure MARROW in the setup below if LOGAN and the Blocking WALL are diagonal inbetween them, as long as Phoenix has LOS to where Marrow is going?
BM
PL
B= blocking wall
M= Marrow
L= Logan
P= Phoenix
What if LOGAN was an opposing fig? Could PHOENIX still TK MARROW?
Yes. TK is a ranged OR close combat attack, and as such Phoenix could still TK Marrow.
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Originally posted by Silver Lantern
What if there was no was there, but Logan was an opposing fig; could PHOENIX TK Marrow if PHOENIX is in Base contact with an opposing figure?
Absolutely. You can pretty much TK anything that is adjacent to you provided there isn't a barrier on that diagonal between the TKer and their target.
Originally posted by Ando Yes. TK is a ranged OR close combat attack, and as such Phoenix could still TK Marrow.
Ando please clarify for me as under option 2 of TK from the Indy PAC, to move a friendly fig no attack is needed, you just move them. Option 2 merely states that the TKer may move a target in an adjacent square. My question is whether in the diagram above where Phoenix & Marrow are friendly and opposing to Logan, doesn't Logan and the wall create a blocking diagonal between Marrow & Phoenix? Or is that considered blocking only for LOS purposes?
The diagram again is:
BM
PL
B= blocking wall
M= Marrow (friendly to Phoenix)
P= Phoenix
L= Logan (opposing to Marrow & Phoenix)
Last edited by Silver Lantern; 12/31/2003 at 03:27..
Quote : Originally Posted by mbauers
Ok, so this game's finally over?
Who the eff daykilled me back to back days? Seriously.
My question is whether in the diagram above where Phoenix & Marrow are friendly and opposing to Logan, doesn't Logan and the wall create a blocking diagonal between Marrow & Phoenix? Or is that considered blocking only for LOS purposes?
Logan and the wall will block LoF. However, they stop neither figures nor squares from being adjacent, and so Marrow may still be TKed, provided LoF to the eventual destination square.
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What if there was no was there, but Logan was an opposing fig; could PHOENIX TK Marrow if PHOENIX is in Base contact with an opposing figure?
Being adjacent to an opposing figure in no way stops the ability to TK a friendly figure, outside of the fact that the opposing figure's base might block LoF to your intended destination.
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And can a figure move through that space inbetween a fig and a wall.
And could you clarify [this from the original post]? I'm not sure why the answer coming back so far has been "no," and so perhaps the confusion comes from an ambiguity in perception.
Okay, Herocomplex. That question refers to a friendly figure moving inbetween the diagonal between an Indoor blocking wall and a figure friendly to the one trying to move through it.
So I suppose my question is as follows: In the diagram below, can SPIRAL (S) cross between the diagonal between the BLOCKING WALL (B) and MYSTIQUE (M) if Mystique is ON hindering and they are friendly?
I understand that she can if it is clear, and they said above that I can't go THROUGH Mystiques square because Spiral would have to stop upon entering Hindering which she cannot do (because Mystique is already in there), but what about through the diagonal?
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Thanks again,
SL
Last edited by Silver Lantern; 12/31/2003 at 04:56..
Quote : Originally Posted by mbauers
Ok, so this game's finally over?
Who the eff daykilled me back to back days? Seriously.