Hi all,

So I've been taking stroll down memory lane (cleaning out another closet) and came across my old friend...



Was just hoping to confirm...while his air strike targets square rather than figures, I know it gets around shape change rolls, but does it bypass mastermind defense power as well?

from WW80 PAC
I have checked older threads, but nothing on this particular wrinkle, also haven't been keeping up the rules lawyering, so I was wondering...

Its still getting hit by an attack that deals damage so it wouldn't bypass Mastermind...directly.

Of course, if you manage to hit the Mastermind AND all his adjacent buddies at the same time, then he has no one to MM to.

Honestly, modern rules don't even have a way to address this properly. It's technically an attack with no targets, which can't even happen.

So, ask your judge, if playing at a venue. For casual, I'd just go with MM works like normal with it.

Technically, Ross should be updated to use "becomes a target" wording like EE. As in, you pick the square, and character in/adjacent become targets. Functionally the same thing, but without the weird interactions/rules hiccups.

Thanks Lantern and Psycho for your responses. So as a follow-up, since the new rulings are so wonky and now that First Turn Immunity has the Immune clause in it. Would this attack be able to bypass it, due to the fact that it's targeting squares and not figures?

You might be able to target (but per Lantern statement that should be impossible under new rules), but you's still won;t able to damage.

Similarly, Nemesis' Bionuclear Blast has similar wording about ranged attacks that don't target.