You are currently viewing HCRealms.com, The Premier HeroClix Community, as a Guest. If you would like to participate in the community, please Register to join the discussion!
If you are having problems registering to an account, feel free to Contact Us.
I'm putting together a 600 point wildcard TA abuse team and this occurred to me:
How would a wildcard like E Saturn Girl copy Johnny Alpha's 2000AD TA? It allows you to declare an arch-enemy, once per game, at any time for the game...
..but the wildcard ability only lasts one round, right?
So could you use the 2000AD TA once, and would it last for the entire game?
I'm guessing once you call it your stuck with that figure/team as your enemy.
So once Johnny Alpha declares Firelord the target whenever Saturn Girl copies the team ability her +1 will be against Firlord.
Once you declare the target for 2000AD, that is set in stone for Johnny Alpha and for any wildcards that will copy 2000AD later on in the game. Wildcards are permitted one team ability per action, so they can copy Top Cow for one action, and then use PD for another action etc. If they choose to copy 2000AD for a particular action, they cannot also copy another ability like Ultimates or Supermany Enemy.
The Ultimate X-Men ability will allow EACH Ultimate X-Men and EACH wildcard to individually choose a target. Let's not talk about confusing until we see wild-card abuse teams with the Ult. X-Men ability haha.
Which brings me to another question. Let's say you have a wildcard team with BOTH 2000AD AND Ultimate X-Men. Now can Smart Hulk use 2000AD on whatever fig it was declared against and then the next round copy Ultimate X-Men to get +1 against someone else?
Originally posted by quicklymilktea
Which brings me to another question. Let's say you have a wildcard team with BOTH 2000AD AND Ultimate X-Men. Now can Smart Hulk use 2000AD on whatever fig it was declared against and then the next round copy Ultimate X-Men to get +1 against someone else?
Yes, and every time he turned back to Ultimate X-men, it would still be the same target(s) he declared the first time he became Ultimate X-Men.
They want what they're not and I wish they would stop saying,
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
If 2000AD is declared on Avengers and Taskmaster declares, let's say, U Thor as his target for Ultimate X-Men, then he can get +1 against Thor AND +1 against any Avenger right?
Originally posted by quicklymilktea
If 2000AD is declared on Avengers and Taskmaster declares, let's say, U Thor as his target for Ultimate X-Men, then he can get +1 against Thor AND +1 against any Avenger right?
No, because he can only belong to one team for any given action - he would never be able to be both 2000AD and Ult. X-Men at the same time.
Kid Zemo
They want what they're not and I wish they would stop saying,
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
I don't mean at the same time...I meant in any given game, he actually can have +1 against 2 different targets/teams. Sorry, Thor was a bad example since he's an Avenger too.
Originally posted by quicklymilktea
I don't mean at the same time...I meant in any given game, he actually can have +1 against 2 different targets/teams. Sorry, Thor was a bad example since he's an Avenger too.
Oh, I see. Yeah. So if Taskmaster's opponent was playing an Avengers team using E Thor as the only fig without the team ability, then the natural 2000AD members could declare against Avengers and Taskmaster could declare his Ult. X-Men ability against E Thor.
This would mean Taskmaster would potentially have a +1 to attack vs. every fig on the opponent's team as long as one friendly 2000AD and one friendly Ult. X-Man remained on the board. All he would need do is declare Ult. X-Men when attacking E Thor and declare 2000AD when attacking anyone else.
Kid Zemo
They want what they're not and I wish they would stop saying,
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
So to clarify, if Taskmaster copied 2000AD TA, he could not copy any other TA's for the entire game?
Or ... if he copied 2000AD, he would get the +1 against whatever team/figure Johnny Alpha declared for, but next round he would lose the +1, but be able to copy a different TA ?
Originally posted by Doxbane So to clarify, if Taskmaster copied 2000AD TA, he could not copy any other TA's for the entire game?
Or ... if he copied 2000AD, he would get the +1 against whatever team/figure Johnny Alpha declared for, but next round he would lose the +1, but be able to copy a different TA ?
thanks for any help!
No, once somebody declares 2000AD (this can happen at any point in the game), then 2000AD is SET for the rest of the game. For a given action, Taskmaster can choose to copy 2000AD to get +1 against whatever team it is declared on. The very next action, he could turn around and copy the PD ability or something else. The next turn he could copy Mystics. Then he could come back the next round and decide to push and copy 2000AD again. The only restriction is that you can't use more than 1 team ability per action.
Originally posted by Doxbane
So to clarify, if Taskmaster copied 2000AD TA, he could not copy any other TA's for the entire game?
No - one team ability for any given action - he can switch between all the teams represented on your force at will.
Quote
Or ... if he copied 2000AD, he would get the +1 against whatever team/figure Johnny Alpha declared for, but next round he would lose the +1, but be able to copy a different TA ?
That one, kind of. In the example above, Taskmaster could switch to 2000 AD team to get the +1 vs Avengers when attacking Captain America. Next turn, he could switch to Ult X-Men to attack (teamless) E Thor with a +1. After resting and clearing, he could then switch back to 2000AD team to get his +1 vs Vision.
Kid Zemo
They want what they're not and I wish they would stop saying,
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa
Deputy dog dog a ding dang depadepa