From what the PAC said it appears they cannot be used together. I just want to make sure that I am not missing anything.

HSS and BCF are not compatible is this correct?

Thank you.
CapMarvel

No they are not.

HSS only allows close or ranged combat attacks.

BCF can only be trigger as part of a close combat action.

then.... why does flurry work with blades/claws/fangs as flurry gives you two close combat attacks?

KC

Greetinx

Actually, BCF only requires a close combat ATTACK, not an action. Therefore it is compatible with HSS.

Best Regards

Dorian

I just read the Universe PAC card and it says BCF requires a close combat action.

Did they FAQ that recently and I missed it?

What's the difference, really? There's no such figure with BCF & Hypersonic Speed.

From the PAC --
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So no, it cannot be done. HSS gives "attacks", whereas BCF requires an "action" to be given.

The reason you can use BCF with Flurry is --
So you are giving the figure a close combat action, and that is what activates BCF.

There might be someday... might as well be prepared

Oh dear - seems I am out of date :P

My apologies to all, I've not familiarised myself with the new PAC. I best actually do that now.

Does beggar the question: is HSS the only power that uses Close Combat attacks and not actions then?

Best Regards

Dorian

Well it's for a Created dial that I have made. I was just curious if I needed to change it. Oh well. Thank you for the clarification Funky.

Well, MC is a Power Action that can use a close combat attack. Option 1 of TK is technically a close combat attack from a Power action as well, but it deals no damage, so it's kind of a moot point. Also, CCE is a Power Action that results in a close combat attack.


And BTW, HSS does use an action, it's a Move Action.

I'm guessing if they ever come out with a character with both HSS and BCF on the same click, they will make extra sure to word the rules so that they don't roll a d6 for every successful roll of option 2 of HSS.