Don't understand the 1/5 for Firelord at all. Invincible/Impervious with Power Cosmic (in a set with a fair amount of Outwit) over 8 clicks of good stats and flying seems pretty solid to me.

No, that isn't how longer dials with the best (un-Outwittable) reducers work. He will be on the map for much longer and has a long string of 11/4s and some form of move-and-attack on every click. He will do much more damage. Do you see why?

Twice the cost means he can expect to be attacked twice as often. Spending 150 on Firelord gets me 8 clicks of life, spending 150 on two UC Hulks would get me 14.

He has great range, that should let him beat a Hulk or Thing. But since he costs so much he needs to be able to beat both of them at the same time and then some. If Firelord tries to take on UC Hulk, UC Thing and a C Skrull at the same time I am not betting on Firelord.

I am still not seeing it with Dr. Doom. All l see is a terrible glass jaw a figure that SHOULD be able to take a hit. Yes, he has Mastermind, but the opening Pulse Wave will make you want to separate from your team.
Also, a lot of his tricks only work if you pull a Common Doom Bot.

8 clicks of life with some good, PROTECTED defenses (and everything else) versus 14 that could end up being vanilla.

There is outwit to be had in this set.
Only three characters can help against the PC TA here, if memory serves, and every one of them is limited (and two of them are going to be particularly hard to find).

I am not saying that my perfect team has a 150 point Firelord on it, but that is not a 1-shield figure, either.


I'm inclined to agree with you that he is not a 5-shield figure.
I probably give him at 95 and at 45, with an extra either way if you pull a Doombot or, preferably, two.

Too many other figures at that 40-50 point range to look at that low dial as a standout. I could maybe go , but no higher.

Much as I like that Dr Doom, limited is not his best environment, despite the opening RS/PW with 12 ATK. He can put in some work, I'm sure, but without a Doombot he's not even close to full potential. Still would maybe give him 3, MAYBE 4 shields.

I didn't need a Klaw with something extra for the Frightful Four. It's true that he has his niche, but it's not distinct enough that I'd forego another Klaw option based on that alone. He really needed to hit a different point value- especially since his keywords have been exactly the same across all these versions!

You make a strong case that Doom probably would have accepted. For me, Cabal was an exciting keyword that, long-term, I feel Doom will contribute a lot to- whereas SHIELD is drowning in options.

Thank you. *sideways glance at JRuff*

She reminds me of Singularity, who also performed well in Sealed just due to a less-than-optimized field.

I am wary of relying too much on Defend. And most of the Fan. 4 have good defense values anyway. But I love both Sues. I expect both will see play.

Ben absolutely breaks the points bank. He's so efficient. Probably the best Ben in the set.

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