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I think it would be too broken and allow the new Carnage figues to heal a lot easier than they already can. Pretty sure that was the reason they used this new keyword to prevent that from being too broken.
Nope. To my recollection, the only keyword errata we've received was corrections to the retro keywords applied to uncarded figures. Wizkids has changed keywords before.
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Yeah, it's a shame they didn't stick with codex as the symbiote go-to keyword. However, I think the codex idea was more related to Knull and represented his connection to all symbiotes. Maybe they wanted that to be set specific.
I'd be satisfied if they at least acknowledged it.
"We wanted to draw a line of distinction between the SvC figures and the figures in SMBA. To that end, we've introduced a new keyword."
That's disappointing, but fine, it's their game and they have a rationalization. As is though, it looks like they completely forgot and just kinda messed the bed.
Hell, I could even see a "We wanted the Carnage figures to have Codex, and the Venom figures to have Symbiote, and you'll see that going forward." That would be kind of cool too, and show a difference in the Klyntar.
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Yeah, it's a shame they didn't stick with codex as the symbiote go-to keyword. However, I think the codex idea was more related to Knull and represented his connection to all symbiotes. Maybe they wanted that to be set specific.
It's not set specific though. Codex debuted in FF, and was also used in Empyre and War of the Realms.
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From what I understand, Codex should be applicable to anyone who had ever bonded with a symbiote, regardless of their current bond status. That would be why someone like Peter/Spider-Man in the Absolute Carnage set would have the keyword.
Symbiote, on the other hand, should just apply to those currently bonded with a symbiote. Which would also apply to most of the pieces with the Codex keyword as well. I would guess there are around a half dozen pieces with the Codex keyword that depict the character when not bonded to a symbiote.
So everyone with the Symbiote keyword should have the Codex keyword. Most, but not all of the Codex should have Symbiote. And there are quite a few with neither that should have one or both.
If I were to house-rule it (and I doubt I will), I would give the Symbiote keyword to pieces with any one of the Symbiotic Fusion, Symbiote, or Alien Symbiote traits. I believe that would cover all of the Venomized characters and most other versions of Venom
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From what I understand, Codex should be applicable to anyone who had ever bonded with a symbiote, regardless of their current bond status. That would be why someone like Peter/Spider-Man in the Absolute Carnage set would have the keyword.
Symbiote, on the other hand, should just apply to those currently bonded with a symbiote. Which would also apply to most of the pieces with the Codex keyword as well. I would guess there are around a half dozen pieces with the Codex keyword that depict the character when not bonded to a symbiote.
So everyone with the Symbiote keyword should have the Codex keyword. Most, but not all of the Codex should have Symbiote. And there are quite a few with neither that should have one or both.
If I were to house-rule it (and I doubt I will), I would give the Symbiote keyword to pieces with any one of the Symbiotic Fusion, Symbiote, or Alien Symbiote traits. I believe that would cover all of the Venomized characters and most other versions of Venom
Came here to say this, and saw it had already been said!
Codex =/= Symbiote. It's like the whole Squares and Rectangles thing; everyone with the Symbiote keyword should have Codex, but not everyone with Codex should have Symbiote.
For all intents and purposes, all people currently wearing Symbiotes had the 'Monster' keyword and that was fine, but introducing a specific Symbiote keyword in the latest set has kind of thrown a wrench into that. Codex, on the other hand, is only for people who have worn a Symbiote at some point in time, but does not necessarily mean they are currently wearing one.
I figured Codex would be an evergreen keyword, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Symbiote is also fine, but I wish they'd pick one and stick with it moving forward. Keyword consistency continues to be a sticking point in the side of Heroclix, even in the new, more polished era.