Okay, the point here is to take a bit of DC comics continuity or character history/personality that changed after Crisis. Then give your opinion on which of the two versions you liked better. For instance, you might take Clark Kent having a career as Superboy (pre-crisis) and compare it to not going all superhero until he was an adult (post-crisis).

I admit that I'm a big Silver Age fan and i enjoyed the complex mythologies that had built up around the characters over the years and felt the DC Universe lost much and gained little when this was set aside.

BUT there is one change made after Crisis that I really felt was an improvement. In Pre-Crisis days, Jason Todd's origin as the second Robin was pretty much a direct repeat of D. Grayson. He, along with his parents, was a member of the "Flying Todds." His parents were murdered by Killer Croc, who was attempting to extort money from them. Jason ends up becoming Robin after Bruce takes him in.

I always felt this clone of Robin #1's origin lacked originality adn did nothing to set him aside as a different character. In Post-Crisis, Jason became a street kid who first encountered Batman when he boosted the tires off the Batmobile. Batman helps him escape from a Fagin-like villain whose running a gang of kid thieves and takes him in as the new Robin.

Of course, it turned out few people liked Jason and he was soon killed off, but as far as the two origins were concerned, I liked the Post-Crisis one better. It wasn't simply a repeat, but was instead something that established Jason as an individual in his own right and still demonstrated Bruce Wayne's willingness to be a mentor/father figure to an orphaned child.

Who else has a Pre-Crisis/Post-Crisis opinion to voice?

if I have to choise I chise silver age all the way.

But yes some think are bether in post characteres silver age.

Bethers before Crisis (my opinion):

Superman
Batman (don't was a jerk and was cool look the neal Adams version)
Deadman (all the way)
Flash (Wally for me always will be Kid Flash)
Hal Jordan


Bethers after Crisis:

Wonder Woman (real coneccion with mitology
Jason Tood
Captain Marvel

I'll agree somewhat, but Croc was a great addition to the Bat-Villains: Scary, strong and SMART. Sometime after Crisis he became just another mindless thug. I want the guy who ruthlessly took over Gotham's Underworld and could easily best Batman in combat. Now he's just a big punching bag.

Pre-Crisis: Superman (whether on Earth-1 or Earth-2) was the *first* superhero, the one who led the way for all the others. On Earth-1, there may technically have been a few superpowered people before him (check out Mikel Midnight's list), but nobody of his caliber until he showed up. Plus, on Earth-1, he had a long career as Superboy (against normal thugs in Smallville and against superpowered threats in the 30th Century), so he was experienced and capable, not just powerful. And he had an unshakable moral compass, tempered by his humility and not being able to save the ones he love (either his biological or adopted parents) despite all his power. Thus, Superman was *the* hero above all others on his Earth.

Post-Crisis: Superman's one of many heroes on Earth. He wasn't the first. He might not even be the most powerful (see Martian Manhunter's fluctuating power levels, for example). He's not the hero with the purest heart and soul, since he makes mistakes, sometimes killing villains or taking over the Earth. And yet, *somehow* we're supposed to consider him the greatest hero, with no justification. None at all. None. And just to try to shoehorn him into history, the first hero of the heroic age (The Crimson Avenger) was given a flashback (well, flashforward) to see Superman as an inspiration (although all Superman did in this vision was to fight Doomsday and die).

Thus, pre-Crisis, Superman *was* the greatest hero on his Earth. Post-Crisis, he's just some guy, you know.

Pre-Crisis: Captain Marvel was the World's Mightiest Mortal on his Earth, Earth-S. Thus, the greatest hero of the Golden Age (imho) and the most popular (at one point, his comic was outselling Superman's) was also the greatest hero on his Earth. And that's as it should be.

Post-Crisis: Captain Marvel's just another hero. He's not the most powerful... Superman has to be more powerful than anybody else. And Captain Marvel Junior is at times not even close to Superman's power level, even though he should be equal to Cap and Cap should be equal to Superman. Captain Marvel has no particular need to exist on the post-Crisis Earth. He's not the first hero, he's not even one of the Golden Age heroes. He's not the most powerful hero. What's his purpose? (Answer: to be the foil for Black Adam who gets to be important in the comics *and* in Heroclix, while Cap is left in the dust.)

Paging Rodney Dangerfield.

That's a good point. I agree Croc was a better villian in the old days.

Pre-Crisis: Superman as a tragic character. He couldn't save his parents, either biological or adopted. The loss of his homeworld Krypton was a great loss to the cosmos. Furthermore, he had to hide his abilities, acting as mere nerdy Clark Kent, unable to have true friends (except in the 30th Century).

Post-Crisis: Superman is not a tragic character. Krypton sucked, so we're all glad it died. The Kents never died, so Superman doesn't have that tragedy to add to his character. He didn't have his powers growing up, so he never had to hide them. In high school, he didn't have to pretend to be a nerd; instead, he got to be a popular football hero! And he even gets the girl, getting to marry Lois Lane (without this being the end of his career as Superman)! The only tragedies in his life are the ones he causes (killing criminals, for example).

Superman lost a lot of what made him interesting, imho.