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While I enjoy superhero books imensley, I have to say that (in general) they lack the kind of depth that most of those other books offer. The kind of depth I am referring to, is the kind that gives me that youthful enthusiasm, but appeals to me as an adult. I want well-rounded stories that either appeal to my sense of (something) or give something to think about, has a meaningful plot, and has well-rounded/developed characters.
Again, I'm not saying that comics of the spandex variety don't provide that, just not to the degree that I would like. If I did not throw in reads like Pride of Baghdad, Sandman, or the recently read Sentences: The Life of MF Grimm...I think that spandex comics as a whole, would leave me wanting and I would eventually find myself bowing out of reading them.
Oddly enough, I find myself feeling more or less the same way. I was really heading out of comics in general until I started heading further and further out of the usual realm of super hero stuff. Since then I've been incredibly pleased at all the wonderful comics I've found that I've been missing. I still enjoy reading some of my old favourites, though it's in addition to a lot of other wonderful stuff, and I probably would have grown tired of comics had I not found such a great quantity of alternatives.
So the question is do you only read Superhero comics?
No. Most American comics I read are superhero ones (there are notable exceptions), but none of the non-American comics I read are (i.e. French, Belgian and Japanese stuff mostly).
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If not, what do you find in other forms of comics that you do not get from hero comics?
Everything (non-superheroic that is). Different art, different narration, different genres (from the one-page humorous strip to the fantasy saga).
Some I read that haven't been mentioned yet (all available in English):
- The Originals (Dave Gibbons)
- Planetes (Makoto Yukimura)
- The Incal (Moebius/Jodorowsky)
- The Metabarons (Gimenez/Jodorowsky)
- I Am Legion (Cassaday/Nury)
- Monster (Naoki Urasawa)
- 20th Century Boys (Naoki Urasawa)
- Appleseed (Masamune Shirow)
- Akira (Katsushiro Otomo)
- Blacksad (Guarnido/Canales).
America pioneered the comic. Back in the day, pulp heroes and general adventure reigned. Superheros popped up in the late 30s, and only him and a handful of others were actual successful, with, Western, Romance and other lines standing next to them. Horror was HUGE.
Its interesting to note the first incarnations of Batman in 38-39 were not at all like the boy scout Batman "superhero" we know today.
The first issues of Batman had Batman shooting guns and even in one scene gunning down a crowd of innocent bystanders to kill the criminals fleeing.
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Then came "Seduction of the Innocent." British psycologist claimed comics will make kids gay, parent hating murders. It freaked out the 50s generation, and the only comics allowed to be published were of the Adam West variety.
This led to only "silly heroes" for over a decade. The only maturing occured in the 60s as Marvel popped in with a slightly more real world view on heroes. We had to wait until the late-70s/early 80s to break the hero genre, but by then it was too late. We had nearly three decades of of the public seeing comics as mostly a kid thing that would rot the brain.
This was really important in American comics/cultural history. Fred Wertham was that Brit psychologist who really set back American comics with his "Batman is gay" prounouncements which led to the creation of the "Bat family". Batman can't be gay if he has Batwoman, Bat-hound and Bat-mite on his side. Yes, I said Bat-mite.
It should be noted that even in DC in the sixties writers like Julius Schwartz attempted to revive the DC characters and make them more realistic looking and acting less Leave it to Beaver.
"Listen for the color of the sky. Look for the sound of the hummingbird's wing. If you have found these things, you will know. And in response to the question "How come you sense these things?" you will answer "How come you do not?"
I've done multiple essays on the history of American comics throughout my education (sometimes comparing it to other literary growth movements). I have too much to ramble about.
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It should be noted that even in DC in the sixties writers like Julius Schwartz attempted to revive the DC characters and make them more realistic looking and acting less Leave it to Beaver.
Between him and Denny O, we have a lot of folks to thank for at least allowing the genres within superhero comics survive. Batman, at his best, is pulp but with the "I hate guns" thing. Personal preference, of course.
Being B&W doesn't stop them from being Superhero books but very few (Batman Black and White and The Phantom a couple of exceptions) are in B&W.
...I apologize for not seeing the sarcasm.
I read more B&W comics than most so I don't generally notice it. I used to read more when I worked at a comic store but that's when I could read them all for free.
I've read a ton of non-superhero comics in my lifelong love affair with comics myself.
Comics in this catagory that I've really enjoyed off the top o my head are:
Stray Bullets
100 bullets
Torso
Jinx
Fire
Fables
the Walking Dead
Bone
the Dark Horse Conan series
Battle Pope
Scalped
the Other Side
Powers
the Escapists
Y the Last Man
Sin City
Lone Wolf and Cub
the Nam'
Give me Liberty
and on the cusp of being a Superhero title:
Zot!
and Nexus!
heh, and that was just off the top of my head!
it doesn't hurt that I've got my book shelf to look at next to me....
I wrote several papers on Comics in college. Fredric Wertham was the topic of one of my Psych 101 papers. Wertham was a quack.
Being fair, Wertham was a well researched and respected psychiatrist until he wrote Seduction of the Innocent.
And the last book he wrote was a sort of apology for Seduction of the Innocent.
It is absolutely bizarre how one paranoid a poorly researched book damaged the general publics perception of the medium the way it did with effects lasting to the modern day.
Neat to see how many folks in this thread wrote papers on comics.
I wrote a paper comparing the Watchmen to Hemingway's "hills like white elephants" myself.
I used to read a bunch of non-superhero books, but as Y has ended I guess that leaves Walking Dead. Unless Booster Gold counts (I jest, I love Booster!)
I used to read a bunch of non-superhero books, but as Y has ended I guess that leaves Walking Dead. Unless Booster Gold counts (I jest, I love Booster!)
You have some solid taste!
I HUGELY recommend anything Kirkman does, just keep in mind that the last ish Marvel Zombies2 sucks dung.
And you reminded me of a Geoff Johns/Liam Sharpe book from Wildstorm that was a non-Superhero book:
The Possessed.
A damn fine read!