I have not really played since Crisis was released. I have played two games with my brother, to help get back in the groove of playing, and to help re-teach him the game. Those games have been featless. But now I want to use feats, in order to help him learn how to use them. He wanted a big point total, so we decided to go with 700 pts.

I love the cover of Batman #619. This cover, by Jim Lee, shows several of Batman's allies, and is part of the Hush storyline and can be seen here. I have made several teams based on this cover. So here's one more.

Gothan Knights

• Chase Batman (AA) 120 pts.
• V Nightwing (CR) 79 pts
• V Robin (AA) 66 pts
• U Oracle (LG) 27 pts
• R Huntress (HT) 18 pts
• E Captain Gordon (AA) 50 pts
• LE Man of Steel (CD) 200 pts
• U Catwoman (HT) 85 pts

Total: 645 pts

We are using the LAME 10% Feat restriction. Tenatively, I have the following feats selected

Contingency Plan on Nightwing.
Oracle on ICWO, with Batman and Superman as agents.
Brilliant Tactician on Nightwing
Alias on Batman

That should bring me to 700 pts even.

Aside from that, I have thought of placing Stunning Blow on Catwoman.
Probably at the expense of CP on Nightwing. I have had tons of success using her with SB, and I really like the figure. also it will be cool because I have never used Batman, Robin, and Gordon before.

I'm not looking to kill him, but I do want to show him some of the complexities of the feats, as well as the benefits. It will also help me reacquaint myself with some of my favorite feats.

I'll have 4 prob controls available through the Gotham City Keyword (Weird that MOS got it and the Bat Ally Supes got the Metropolis keyword).

Since I have not really used Feats from Arkham Asylum and Secret Invasion, I was wondering if there were other cards from those sets I should be considering?

Thanks for your help!

This is just my humble opinion:

Starting with your 645 point team:

If possible, I would

+23 use Alpha Oracle instead of Legacy Oracle. The big difference is that you can add ESD to the chase Batman to help against "easy" sniping.

Since that may not be an option for you, let's try these 55 points of feats instead:

Batman gets (+8) Protected (+5) Lunge
He *needs* protected because he will be the first target. Lunge is unfortunately tied to the special white power that opponents will try to outwit, but if he is in close, it makes a HUGE difference.

You can keep your two agents of Oracle (+20)

This leaves you 22 points.

I want you to consider getting rid of Contingency Plan, and here is why:

1) You force has only one TAXI. Once combat starts, you won't be accumulating many actions on the plan, unless things go downhill for you.

2) It forces you to play Nightwing TOO conservatively. You *want* him using his Outsiders TA, and you may want his mobility for tie-up.

I don't like Alias (3 points) as much as I like Nanoarmor (6 points). There is a new class of object-wielding bruisers in the game. I'd assign it to NGN Superman.

I want you also to consider Passenger (5 points), which can be assigned to any Leap/Climb figure. Much of your team is pushable, and Chase Batman won't event take that damage (but don't assign it to him).

If you play against turtles, Double-Time (also 5 points) can be a great way to put a figure right in the middle of opponents. I actually think that Nightwing would be a good use of that strategy. For 10 points (DT + Passenger) Batman could carry a buddy 18 squares across the map and not take any damage.

The other thing to consider is Warbound. Not every figure on your team can warbound to every other, but you should get a lot of mileage out of Batman passing tokens to Robin, etc.

Maneuver (8 points) is wonderful for disrupting enemy positions, but only Superman can make great use of it...use at risk.

(Dang, I had a nice long post and the database crashed as I tried to load it.)

First, the U Catwoman doesn't have the Gotham City keyword. She only has the Birds of Prey, detective, and martial artist keywords. So if you're playing strictly by theme, she will break your theme.

I'd recommend playing the V Catwoman from Hypertime for 68 points. I'd play her over the LE Selina Kyle because she's got lots of Smoke Cloud after her first three clicks. Both figures have AVs that tank after their first couple of clicks, but the Vet picks up Smoke Cloud right away... so when she's not able to fight very well any more, she can still lay down smoke for the Bat family. She isn't Stealthy, but with all the other Stealthy figures out there, you should be able to protect her on the move up.

I'd also recommend playing the Batman Alpha Huntress over the HT version. Again, you lose the TA, but you pick up a very viable secondary attacker, and one with better AV, DV, and damage values down the dial. She is very pushable and has four clicks of Running Shot to add some additional move+attack to your team. She also can lay down lots of Smoke Cloud as well. (Have her hang out next to Supes or Bats for better DV.)

This would leave your team at 660.

Chase Batman (AA) 120 pts.
V Nightwing (CR) 79 pts
V Robin (AA) 66 pts
U Oracle (LG) 27 pts
Huntress (BA) 50 pts
E Captain Gordon (AA) 50 pts
LE Man of Steel (CD) 200 pts
V Catwoman (HT) 68 pts
Total: 660

For feats, I'd add (assuming you don't want to obliterate your opponent, as you posted):

ICWO on two = 20 points (I'd put it on Bats and Nightwing for thematic purposes, plus Nightwing being able to do 3 damage makes him a lot more than an annoyance)

Protected on MOS = 8 points (Because, well, he's Superman)

Life Model Decoy on Batman = 12 points (so Bats has Toughness down his dial)

Total: 700 points


As Tidge said, there are a lot of other great Feats out there for this team (Lunge, more Protecteds, Flashbang, etc etc etc). But these are relatively "fair" feats for a friendly game.

And, for an added bonus, play the HOT Knockout Gas BFC... LOTS of Smoke Cloud around!

Lame? With the new print & play policy, the 10% rule is the only thing that'll curb the feat abuse!

Without the 10% feat restriction at 700 points I think the Gotham Knights would be facing a double-team 2xNova Blast Ultron + Brainiac "robot" squad.

Only problem is that Catwoman has no Range, so she can only drop Smoke Cloud in squares adjacent to her. You may have accounted for that already in your recommendation, but had to bring it up anyway.

Darth Sabre -- I want to chime in, but need to know if this is meant to be a "learning experience" or genuinely competitive. And if it is a learning experience, do you know what he plans to play?

-J

Yep, I had thought of that... with her L/C, I figured she could move into place to throw smoke, or she could smoke where she is then L/C away. (And with an 11 Defense on her last click, hanging out next to someone with a Defend power would probably be a pretty good idea...)

AND, if you take both my suggestions, you get Huntress with an 8 range -- she'll be able to do long-range smoke while Catwoman (if she takes a hit) lays down close-range smoke.

Smoke Cloud is still a Power Action. She can either drop the smoke or move, not both.

-J

I wanna thank everyone for their suggestions. Realmsquake and my attempt to access the Relams via my Blackberry did not allow me to access this thread before my brother and I played.

He ended up using an Asgardian Keyword team consisting of:

HoT Thor
Thor-girl
Balder
Sif
HoT Enchantress

I used Stunning Blow on Catwoman, ICWO, and Brilliant Tactician. I had terrible rolls and my brother played surprisingly well. He got to experience using feats, which is what the goal was.

In the end with Balder and Sif bearing down on Nightwing and Huntress, Nightwing was worthy enough to wield Mjolnir and pull out the win. Great game!

Thanks again. I will now rep you all. I always appreciate the suggestions.

PS: realized as I went to bed that Catwoman didn't have the Gotham Keyword. She was ineffective, but I am quite fond of the figure.

That's my favorite Catwoman figure too! While a bit pricy, I think she's an excellent Pouncer, if she can end in Stealth.

I was talking about multiple-turn commitments, of course.