Okay, curious about different opinions. Which do you all think would be a better combo of feats for Ulik? Swingline or Unstoppable and Lunge? Too tired to get into pros and cons right now but I'd like to hear some of your thoughts.

unstoppable+lunge hands down.
Allows you to ignore that hindering terrain. This prevents you from stopping once you hit hindering.
Can pop 2 squares and still use CCE if your still within 2 squares of another figure.

Where as Swinglinge only gives you +1 movement and to give a character Grounded.

IMO its hands down unstoppable+lunge

Seconded.
The major drawbacks of Unstoppable+Lunge is that the prerequisites can be Outwitted... but the benefits more than make up for it. Especially Lunge's ability to break away for free.

thirded.

the ONLY benifit that swingling gives you is the ability to ground a flier.

considering ulik needs an object to do so (for range)

unstoppable lets you ignore hindering terrain, destroy blocking terrain, and then lunge gives you 2 extra charge range (making him 7 instead of 5)

swingline would give you the same effect, minus the destroying terrain, no free breakaway and only 6 charge...

Technically another advantage of Swingline is that the move bonus is constant while the Lunge movement only applies when attacking.
However, moving 10 squares then Charging for 7 and moving 11 squares then Charging for 6 is more or less six of one, half a dozen of the other...

Technically another advantage of Swingline is that the move bonus is constant while the Lunge movement only applies when attacking.
However, moving 10 squares then Charging for 7 and moving 11 squares then Charging for 6 is more or less six of one, half a dozen of the other...

Fourthded.

Enough said.

Haha wow well this wasn't much of a debate at all. The one thing I was worried about with the Lunge + Unstoppable combo was getting the pre-reqs outwitted. Thanks everyone. So I guess that also answers my question that you can only use lunge if it leads to an attack, correct?

Right.

The movement occurs right before the attack. No attack, no movement.

Fifthed.

Use your Rock Trolls to block LOF from the Outwitters to Ulik. Make that be the primary role of one or two of them, and bashing people a second priority.

Hard to do with OOTS Batman, and can be tough when dealing with elevated terrain like the Rainbow Bridge, but overall, they can protect Ulik that way too.

You can do that even though the feat says close combat attack and CCE is a power action? If so that's freakin sweet.

CCE is a power action that grants a free close combat attack.

It won't work with any power action that doesn't end in a close combat attack, though (like Barrier or RCE).

Awesome thanks. What if I'm using, say, Fandral and I want to use Lunge with Flurry. Can I Lunge, make the first attack and then Lunge again to attack someone else for the second attack or can you not Lunge anymore once you've attacked? Thanks again to everyone for all the help.

yes you can lunge attack lunge and attack with flurry.

It's really nasty if there is a person on the other side of a wall. lunge two squares hit the wall then lunge two more squares and hit the person hiding over there.

Vendetta on Ulik might be great as well.