Agreed, that is the exact conversation.

The advantage of a full-power Iron Patriot is that:

• Iron Patriot can fly/carry.
• You can position your HAMMER grunts more smoothly, as opponents will be worrying about the Iron Patriot's swing.
• Iron Patriot (because of his swing) can hang back and contribute the AV boost to the grunts.

The advantage of Norman Osborne:

• more reliable Contingency Plan (do opponents outwit his Outwit or Mastermind?)
• the option to Thunderbolts: best choice is Ultimates if facing stealthers, second best is probably Mystics.

Just pulled enough HAMMER guys to play this. Can't wait to try it!

the main advantage of using full iron patriot is that you are guaranteed to get him out. ae powers are sketchy, and with norman if you roll a 1 or 2 before the game you never get iron patriot. that being said, i use norman way more often. front-loaded outwit and t-bolts ata? yes please.