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I actually was responding to his statement which I thought was negative, .
Yes, but he (stormphoenix) was responding to MY post. I never said it wasn't a clix based game (his contention). I just said it wasn't focused on combat (because it's not, though that's an element of the game).
I really didn't understand his comment that the lack of focus on combat was because it was designed by a game designer rather than a fan of the franchise. I could see fans designing it either way (combat-oriented or mission/problem-solving), and designers doing the same (SFB and Federation Commander were designed by game designers and they are combat-oriented).
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I don't have a problem with someone not liking the game because they want something else. I would argue that it isn't a clix based game, they could easily have had the game without the clix as all the information is on the card and you could just indicate which power distribution click you are on (as I had to do when I drew the Enterprise E because they gave us the same dial for both Enterprises). Its really not just a single type of game, its cross genre you even build a deck during set-up.
Well, in fact it *IS* a clix based game - it uses a dial with different stats that you click to the different settings. Whether or not it could be well represented without a dial is beside the point, isn't it?
FWIW I think it's a cleaner design with the dial. Yes you could mark the card somehow, but the dial makes that a non-issue. Since you can only select your settings within your current range on your turn, having a dial set to those current settings is handy.
I think I'd probably prefer it without the dial, as the ships would be easier to repaint and potentially reuse for other games. However, if you don't care about paintjobs and only intend to use these ships for this game, having the dial is probably superior.
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I split it with a friend of mine, and he has it at the moment. The size 6 ships are beefy as you would expect, the Enterprise J has 16 weapons and 17 shields at one point. I remember the defiant being 3 points with 9s on Movement every white click and pretty solid weapon numbers. I will be playing it again on Thursday so I'll get more info on the ships to you, I won't be able to do any scans but I could get the info on the dials out.
Just a follow-up.................did Fred get a chance to post this and I just missed it?
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I was at the Star Trek convention this past weekend in Las Vegas, and John Van Citters, the guy in charge of CBS licensing, announced that Fleet Captains would be available in two versions: the standard version without painted minis, and a deluxe version WITH painted minis. I checked the website and there was no new information posted by Wizkids.
Has anybody else heard of this? I'd probably pay extra for the painted version if it becomes an option.
That's a good move by Wizkids (and probably they are doing it in response to the uproar about them being unpainted). A lot of board games release deluxe versions with painted minis a while after releasing the general version.
Personally I'll be happy to just paint them myself.
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War of the Ring is the first one to come to mind. It's a big LotR board game with lots of little miniatures. In the standard set they come just in three colours of plastic (red for bad, blue for good and grey for important characters) but there is a Collectors version that has them all painted. I believe it is a lot more expensive, but there are lots of miniatures in the game. The Collectors one also has a much cooler board, box, etc.
Shadows over Camelot is another one. It has miniatures of King Arthur and his Knights as well as a few other things. I believe you can buy a pack that has just painted versions of them if you really want it. I'm actually in the process of painting mine at the moment.
I'm sure there are others.
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