lusiphur Batman recognised Kathy because of the Hypertime
lapse much like what started happening in Flash when Wally
was explaining to the group what happening. Wally called Superman Ultraman and Jay Jack, etc.

Yeha, I figured that. Do you know if Planet Krypton still has the Ghosts?

I feel that after the five year gap was the best legion stories ever written. I loved the legion growing up and with the 5 year gap stories you were able to go back and look at some of the old missions with a different light. I have never been so dissappointed to see a comic end and change direction like the legion. I still pick up the current legion from time to time and it really isn't that great.

i didn't mind the TMK days, really, but they did do a lot to screw up Legion continuity.

I liked that it was (esentially) the same characters I've been reading for decades. I like that they grew older. Not knowing what happened in the previous five years was interesting. The "rising from the ashes" feel of the first stories were good, and I don't think that particular approach has taken in quite that way before.

I didn't like them monkeying around with time-lines so backhandedly. There was no reason to whipe out the Pocket Universe. No reason to try and make "Valor" (how I hate that name) the inspiration for the Legion. No point at *all* to the Glorith-verse. And the reboot after the Glorith-verse...Laurel, Kid Quantum, other bits of history hacked into place with the finese of a bowling ball....

And for all the attempts to rise from the ashes, the LSH never did get back to their "future full of hope" that was the baseline for previous incarnations. They go from fighting a corrupt government to fighting a war (and willingly killing!!) to the Moon being destroyed to finally the Earth blowing up.

I stuck with it until the end though. Even after the Zero Hour reboot. Until Jeckie was shown to be a snake, that is, and didn't pick up an issue until recently (and am presently surprised that it doesn't suck out loud). I hope they tread carefully around this "New Darkness Saga", though. Though with Mr Levitz as publisher, hopefully things will be done well.

Ah well. I still have my back issues.

Well, unforunately it's not quite that clean.

Yes, Hypertime brought back the Multiverse - every possible permutation of any event or character is out there is some alternate timeline/universe (which in and of itself messes with one of the basic premises of Crisis ). And if they'd have left it at that - pre-Crisis history exists somewhere, Elseworlds tales actually happened [i]somewhere[i] - that wouldn't have been so bad.

But then they said that these various Hypertime timelines/universes cross through the regular DCU, and that when they do their history becomes part of the regular DCU history. So essentially any glaring continuity errors aren't errors, they're just a new Hypertime version of the events replacing what happened in the DCU.

So essentially what they've done is said, "A bunch of alternate Earths are too confusing, but changing history and throwing in stuff from these alternate Earths whenever we want isn't confusing."

Gee, where do you get the idea that I think that their execution of the Hypertime concept really blows?

Legion was one of the first comics I started reading, and I stuck through the good and the bad. I thought the start of the post-5-year-gap stories were great, but as Meat said, things just started falling apart for me as it pressed on. I stuck with them after the Zero Hour reboot, all the way through Legion Lost. But the Blight and Legion Lost just killed it for me. I was buying the Legion just because it was the Legion, not because I was getting any enjoyment out of the stories. Personally I liked that the Legion wasn't a dystopian future. About that time finances got really tight again, and I had to drop down to just a couple of titles. Legion didn't make the cut and I haven't read any of them since they started up after Legion Lost.

Planet Krypton only had the ghosts as a result of the items
from various points in time (hypertime). It is assumed that
all item have been returned to their proper place thereby
leaving no ghosts or other horrific consequences. However
there is a superboy corpse on the moon from an alternate
reality. I wish DC had thought out the cause and effect of
hypertime alot better beforehand. If it was too dangerous for
Walter West Flash to stay in their timeline then what would they do about the dead superboy? Or you could say the living pressence of those Kingdom Come kids caused the Ghosts
in Planet Krypton and not the objects. Therefore a superboy corpse couldn't upset the time stream.

Agents of Darkseid have been doing some alternate reality hunting in LSH the last 3 or so issues. It's like they are trying to find a Clark Kent while he was in Smallville. Maybe they are goign totry and restart the original Superboy. And currently Kon-el is apparently hanging with the LSH. We don't know if it's really him yet.