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You need to go back and read the Clear The Streets pilot ability of the cop cars. It says "Police Team Ability" - so how exactly is she worthless as a pilot if she meets the requirement for them to use their best pilot ability?
I see that she can use "Clear the Streets" but she cost 60 points and there are cheaper options that make the car better so it makes no sense to pay more and get less. There are far cheaper pilots leaving room for better board presence. Worthless might have been a bit harsh but she Is just not all that she was being hyped in the quoted text, and I stand by my statement: she will not be in a top tier team at a real event!
PILOT ABILITY: CLEAR THE STREETS: Prerequisites: Gotham City keyword or Police team ability. Once per turn, when GCPD Cruiser passes through a square occupied by an opposing character, immediately place that character in a square within 3 squares and line of fire of its current square and deal it 1 penetrating damage, then complete GCPD Cruiser's movement.
PILOT ABILITY: CUFFED TO THE BUMPER: Prerequisites: Any character with "GCPD" or "Gordon" in its name. GCPD Cruiser can use Plasticity; characters that can automatically break away or ignore characters for movement purposes do not automatically break away or ignore GCPD Cruiser for movement purposes.
Why pay 60 for just the first ability when you can pay 30 and use both. A cruiser that can use both abilities plus 30 points to spare. I may have to reconsider how harsh worthless really is?
Last edited by CouncilmanKang; 09/05/2013 at 13:29..
chillax bro, Jarimy is right and you are peddling backwards. Cerise here is a good fig, in addition to cop cars, she compliments shatterstar well too. I'm brainstorming so forgive me but I've already seen some good players play with her in some pretty cutthroat events. So yeah, I'd say she does help Cruiser teams, and fits nicely into Shatterstar teams as well. so she is a Top Tier fig. I'd run her with Shatterstar all day, pairing her with a decent melee beats.
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I'm not unchillaxed bro. I am simply stating a fact. There are way better options to pilot a cop car period. I don't care how she plays with shatterstar or how she plays with police teams. I implore you to pm me a team list from a worthy event, don't worry I won't hold my breath. I never said she wasn't a good figure, so what are you even talking about. There are plenty of figures that are better than good that won't be played top tier. I stated that she isn't as good as hyped and until proven otherwise looks like I'll be right about that. I'd ask how you think I was back peddling but I doubt you have a good answer.
You said she was worthless. I still fail to see how she is worthless as a pilot for a vehicle when she triggers the best pilot ability. I never said she was going to win Gencon, you quoted me and started nerd raging about she will not be at a top tier event.
Did I forget where I said she was top tier? I just couldn't understand how she is worthless, meaning she does nothing as a pilot for the cop car, when she triggers the ability.
Are there better figures to pilot a cop car? You act like you have discovered the cure for cancer by telling me there are better figures to pilot one - no #### dude?!? Really?! I had no idea! There are better candidates to pilot the cop car? No way man! You aren't totally giving me information a 4 year old would know...
But saying she is worthless makes zero sense if she triggers their best ability. I never said she was top tier or the best. You weirdo.
You said she was worthless. I still fail to see how she is worthless as a pilot for a vehicle when she triggers the best pilot ability. I never said she was going to win Gencon, you quoted me and started nerd raging about she will not be at a top tier event.
Did I forget where I said she was top tier? I just couldn't understand how she is worthless, meaning she does nothing as a pilot for the cop car, when she triggers the ability.
Are there better figures to pilot a cop car? You act like you have discovered the cure for cancer by telling me there are better figures to pilot one - no #### dude?!? Really?! I had no idea! There are better candidates to pilot the cop car? No way man! You aren't totally giving me information a 4 year old would know...
But saying she is worthless makes zero sense if she triggers their best ability. I never said she was top tier or the best. You weirdo.
I'm glad you think everything is about you.
I don't know what nerd raging is except perhaps your last post.
You aren't the one that said top tier but that doesn't mean it wasn't said, way to read!
If you read anything at all I did go back and say worthless may be harsh, but yeah paying double for less is fairly worthless, imo.
Yea but you aren't paying double the cost for her just to do the same thing as a 30 point cop. If you can't see her value at 60 points (have you looked at her dial?) over a 30 point cop I'm not sure what to tell you. The 30 point cop's only value is giving the cop car it's pilot abilities. Cerise gives the cop car it's best ability, on top of her dial that completely blows the 30 point cop's away. She's probably not top tier, but she is infinitely more valuable than the 30 point cop and any smart player would pay the 60 for her over the 30.
You have clearly over looked the 2nd pilot ability. I would almost agree with you about the first pilot ability being the best but the ability to control your opponents movement is easily as important as an extra penetrating considering the vehicles limited movement. 2 cop cars with good pilots can control movement over most maps, and any good player can recognize the benefit of controlling your opponents ability to move. You are still advocating paying double for half.
Invincible negates "Clear the Streets" so if you face invincible she is super lame as a pilot. However if you use GCPD you can at least still control much movement. 2 cars with good pilots is less than 200 points. Cerise, 2 cars and another pilot is at least 226, so after the belt you are left with 60 points for a heavier hitter, without Cerise you have 90 points for a heavier hitter and most good players can clearly see the value in that.
I get that she is good but entering and exiting vehicles takes time.
I have seen her dial and am not that impressed. 5 clicks no willpower and 5 range so without pushing her she can attack for 10 squares every other turn. I don't find that special as a regular piece and when you consider her prime status it only makes it worse. Outwit CR and she is easily one shoted by many super strength figs holding a heavy. With her limited range it is hard to hide her until she can be effective.
So by all means please exit the vehicle because without access to the second pilot ability to slow move and attack down she is little more than a morsel.
Heaven forbid she gets kicked out of a defeated vehicle because then you paid 60 points for 4 clicks of easy to kill.
Her value at 60 points would require to be on the board because in the car she is no different than a cop except the part where she is only half as good.
At 300 points, her a belt and a car are almost half of your team and that is not scary or hard to deal with to most decent players.
Team her up with Bishop, a GCPD Motor Officer and a few GCPD Motorcycles for a fun Police theme @ 300 pts. Add the CGPD ATA to quickly move the squad into position.
Played her on a soldier team and she was really great paired up with a good close combat piece. She can choose Empower, swoop in for a close range attack, then her bruiser pal charges in to take advantage of the empower and lock down opponents to keep her safe from ranged retaliation. Great one-two punch, especially in tight quarters.
I really need to find a team to throw her on. really nice piece.
I enjoyed playing her with Ares and a bunch of Gordinian's on a Warrior theme team. Korvus and Shatterstar also fit on that team with a full book if you play 600 points. Cerise and Ares together make a hell of a couple.
I want to play her again on a wild card abuse team, but haven't brainstormed that one yet. CW Hawkeye come to mind as a possible Wildcard and anyone with Sinister Syndicate for sharing attack values.
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Great stats and that trait allows her to be extremely flexible, both as a support and as an attacker.
Her short dial is balanced by the good dv granted by es/d & cr.
5 stars.
Totally would just use ESD on her all the time. Perma 19D from ESD and CR with knock back immunity? Hell yes. She's above a secondary attacker with her top dial 19D, 11 Atk and P/PB. All this for 60 points....damn you ebay for making empty my wallet.
Ophidian, that is all. Wait...No I loved this click before entities, but damn Ophidian on her, with that Invulnerability and 20 Def from range or melee. Blah, Blah, Blah Psy Blast, RS, 20 DEF, 11 ATK, PD team ability, the option of Empower and BCF(dropping the range D to 18). That list the reasons why this piece is awesome, and while most pieces would benefit by Possession and Entities, I have to say there is alot of synergy going on between this an Ophidian, just look at it and tell me other pieces benefit more.
Win/Loss: 10-2 Cerise is one of the best secondary attackers ever designed. She is so economical and at the same time can bring offense as well as supporting a few pals. The Light Constructs are what I wished Meggan had. For the points she is outstanding in this current state of the game. So glad I pulled her in my WatX case. EDIT: 2019 - Still going strong and even got a bit better with Blades dealing a minimum of 1 less than your base damage in 2019. She really goes well on a Shi'ar team complimenting this year's Gladiator and Con Ex Lilandra wonderfully.
Last edited by tyroclix; 12/14/2019 at 08:48..
Reason: Update W/L 12/13/19
Visible Dials and Pushing Damage need to be optional. This is the way.