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While Pulse Wave ignores powers and abilities, it does not counter them. Therefore, terrain created as a result of using a power is considered terrain and affects Pulse Wave normally, even if the character generating that terrain is within range of the Pulse Wave. Characters holding an object due to a feat or power would still be able to hold the object and even use the held object (if it helps defensively).
The character using Pulse Wave does not have any of its powers, traits, abilities, or feats ignored during the Pulse Wave attack.
Pulse Wave does not ignore the effects of terrain except as noted in the power.
1. Means that even if the guy who create a barrier is affected by the pulse wave the barrier still stand?.
2. Now what happend with the smoke cloud and the -1 to attack, pulse wave ignore that effect?
3. what means Characters holding an object due to a feat or power would still be able to hold the object and even use the held object (if it helps defensively). ??
Hopefully I am correct in my answer- Clarification(s)
1: Barrier is blocking terrain, pulse wave does NOT ignore blocking terrain. Therefore if you put a barrier around yourself someone with pulse wave would need another character to break one of the placed blocking terrains. For the other character to use pulse wave on your character. As well you could use barrier to block a friendly pulse wave.
2:A character using pulse wave would not reduce their attack. This is because of the wording that smoke cloud has:
Quote
Give this character a power action; place up to 6 hindering terrain markers in distinct, adjacent squares that are all within this character’s range (minimum range
value 4). At least one of the terrain markers must be within line of fire when it is placed. The
terrain markers remain until the beginning of your next turn. Characters that occupy these
terrain markers modify their attack value by -1 unless they can use Smoke Cloud or ignore
hindering terrain for line of fire purposes.
You would ignore hindering terrain during the action of using pulse wave. If a special power read:
"Place 4 special terrain markers, all lines of fire passing them get a -1 to attack"
Then said character would not ignore the effect of that. Due to said character's line of fire passes through the special terrain in this example.
3: I am not 100% sure on why that is worded that way. I will look into it or it may already get answered before I can get back to you.
Last edited by LinkzBanagher; 02/16/2014 at 14:55..
Reason: Correcting my answers & grammar.
3: (Nanobots) If a character's power / read something like this:
"If said character hits & deals damage to an opposing character this turn while holding an object. As a free action remove the held object from the game then increase said character's defence by +1"
If your character hits an opposing character this turn with pulse wave, & happened to have a object in their hands. The said character still has the opportunity to increase said character's defense value by +1.
or a even better explain (Given below by BigSoph)
the "Office Desk":
“Light: When a character holding this object is attacked, you may modify the holding character’s defense value by +2. If you do, the object is destroyed after the attack resolves.”
Use the object while getting pulse waved & you get a +2 to defence, awesome deal.
Hopefully I am right & this clear the air for you.
- Also not sure if Wizkids could call that a "clarification" on pulse wave.
Last edited by LinkzBanagher; 02/16/2014 at 15:00..
Chapter 2, page 2 of the new PG
While Pulse Wave ignores powers and abilities, it does not counter them. Therefore, terrain created as a result of using a power is considered terrain and affects Pulse Wave normally, even if the character generating that terrain is within range of the Pulse Wave. Characters holding an object due to a feat or power would still be able to hold the object and even use the held object (if it helps defensively).
Take a look at this object
OFFICE DESK†
“Light: When a character holding this object is attacked, you may modify the holding character’s defense value by +2. If you do, the object is destroyed after the attack resolves.”
Hopefully I am correct in my answer- Clarification(s)
1: Barrier is blocking terrain, pulse wave does NOT ignore blocking terrain. Therefore if you put a barrier around your self some with pulse wave would need another character to break one of the placed blocking terrains to use it on your character. As well you could use barrier to block a friendly pulse wave.
2: If a character using pulse wave was sitting in a marker of hindering terrain placed by smoke cloud said character would get the -1 to attack. Alternatively the character(s) you are targeting would not get the bonus(es) for your line of fire going through hindering. In short you would get a -1 to attack for sitting in the smoke cloud, but they would not get a defence bonus.
3: I am not 100% sure on why that is worded that way. I will look into it or it may already get answered before I can get back to you.
I read the Smoke Cloud issue slightly differently (although I'm far from 100% certain in my interpretation.) The way I see it is that Smoke Cloud lays down standard hindering terrain markers and then the effect of them having been placed by the use of Smoke Cloud causes them to give the -1 penalty to attack. As such, if the character that used Smoke Cloud within the AoE of Pulse Wave, it would still be hindering terrain as per the clarification (although this would be largely irrelevant for resolving Pulse Wave,) but the -1 penalty would be ignored. I think it would be different if Smoke Cloud allowed you to place Special terrain markers that acted as hindering for movement and line of fire purposes and gave a -1 attack penalty for anyone standing on them.
As I say, just my tuppence-worth.
EDIT: So, just to clarify, I think that you wouldn't get the -1 penalty if the figure who laid down the Smoke Cloud was in the Pulse Wave AoE because the penalty isn't specifically a function of the Smoke Cloud markers being hindering terrain.
EDIT: So, just to clarify, I think that you wouldn't get the -1 penalty if the figure who laid down the Smoke Cloud was in the Pulse Wave AoE because the penalty isn't specifically a function of the Smoke Cloud markers being hindering terrain.[/quote]
Smoke Cloud Reads:
Quote
Give this character a power action; place up to 6 hindering terrain markers in distinct, adjacent squares that are all within this character’s range (minimum range
value 4). At least one of the terrain markers must be within line of fire when it is placed. The
terrain markers remain until the beginning of your next turn. Characters that occupy these terrain markers modify their attack value by -1 unless they can use Smoke Cloud or ignore
hindering terrain for line of fire purposes.
So I was originally incorrect; due to the fact of you are ignoring hindering terrain for line of fire purposes during that action.
I would imagine that if there was a special terrain that acted like smoke cloud. But, did not have the same wording as smoke cloud would work. I should have read them both side by side.
Chapter 2, page 2 of the new PG
While Pulse Wave ignores powers and abilities, it does not counter them. Therefore, terrain created as a result of using a power is considered terrain and affects Pulse Wave normally, even if the character generating that terrain is within range of the Pulse Wave. Characters holding an object due to a feat or power would still be able to hold the object and even use the held object (if it helps defensively).
Take a look at this object
OFFICE DESK†
“Light: When a character holding this object is attacked, you may modify the holding character’s defense value by +2. If you do, the object is destroyed after the attack resolves.”
THAT is what PW refers to, the +2 from the desk
This is something I was unaware of that existed; great answer given here.
EDIT: So, just to clarify, I think that you wouldn't get the -1 penalty if the figure who laid down the Smoke Cloud was in the Pulse Wave AoE because the penalty isn't specifically a function of the Smoke Cloud markers being hindering terrain.
Smoke Cloud Reads:
So I was originally incorrect; due to the fact of you are ignoring hindering terrain for line of fire purposes during that action.
I would imagine that if there was a special terrain that acted like smoke cloud. But, did not have the same wording as smoke cloud would work. I should have read them both side by side.[/quote]
Ah, yes, good point well made. I don't know how many times I've read the new PAC and yet never spotted the last clause of that last sentence for Smoke Cloud.