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SHAPE CHANGE
When this character is chosen as the target of an attack, you may roll a d6. On a result of 5/6, the attacker can’t target this character with an attack this turn and the attacker may choose another target character instead. The attacker then makes the attack unless there are no targets, in which case the action resolves without an attack.
CLOSE COMBAT EXPERT
Give this character a power action. It makes a close combat attack against a single opposing target character; before making the attack you may modify its attack value by +2, its damage value by + 2, or both combat values by +1.
So, my question is when is the bonus assigned? Is it when the target is assigned or when you activate CCE? The operative part to me is before the attack is made in CCE, saying that Shape Change is rolled before bonuses are assigned. Basically if I was going +1/+1 and the target makes Shape Change, am I stuck with the +1/+1 or could I switch to +2 damage or attack?
Very interesting. I can see it going either way. My first thought would be, you give the power action for CCE, choose the target, Shapechange is rolled, then bonuses are assigned.
With all of the possible interactions in Clix these days, we're going to need a serious "timing" chart before long.
one would assume atleast that the Bonus is asigned upon the declaration of using the ability of either Close or Ranged Combat Expert. so you would declare Attack on Shape Changer, at which time you Declare your Bonuses and the Shape Change is also Rolled. if the Shape Change is successful then you would have to target someone else with the same declared bonuses...
Yeah, I never thought about it like that before, but I could see it going either way. But after reading over it a bit notice these bolded lines (According to the new players guide that came out yesterday).
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Ranged Combat Expert
Give this character a power action. It makes a ranged combat attack against a single target character; ; before making the attack, you may modify attack value by +2, its damage value by +2 , or both combat values by +1.
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Shape Change
When this character is chosen as the target of an attack, you may roll a d6. On
a result of or, the attacker can't target this character with an attack this turn and the attacker may choose another target character instead. The attacker then makes the attack unless there are no targets, in which case the action resolves without an attack.
So it would be:
Power action
target character(s)
Shape Change roll
If Shape Change failed:
Choose stat bonuses
Make attack roll
If Shape Change is successful:
Retarget
Choose stats bonuses
Make attack roll
Also, slightly off topic. I was having difficulty finding clarification on multi-targeting and if some of the targets have SC. In the past I believe it used to be you only retargeted if all the targets made SC. If only some made the SC roll and some did not, you were still forced to attack the remaining targets. But could see someone interpreting the current wording as, if one of the targets makes the SC then the attacker could retarget a different set.
Yeah, I never thought about it like that before, but I could see it going either way. But after reading over it a bit notice these bolded lines (According to the new players guide that came out yesterday).
So it would be:
Power action
target character(s)
Shape Change roll
If Shape Change failed:
Choose stat bonuses
Make attack roll
If Shape Change is successful:
Retarget (if possible)
Choose stats bonuses
Make attack roll
This looks good to me.
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Also, slightly off topic. I was having difficulty finding clarification on multi-targeting and if some of the targets have SC. In the past I believe it used to be you only retargeted if all the targets made SC. If only some made the SC roll and some did not, you were still forced to attack the remaining targets. But could see someone interpreting the current wording as, if one of the targets makes the SC then the attacker could retarget a different set.
Whoever was still being targeted would still remain a target. If you multi-targeted character A and B, and B successfully rolled Shape Change, you would still target A and attempt to re-target your other attack if possible. if not, then your attack would continue with only A being attacked.
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