Psych profiles are all well and good. (Except the fact that I'm tired of having those particular ones thrown my way. (No frustration directed at you. How could you know?)) But their usefulness is only evident when and where the rubber hits the road. "Tinkerers" who just want to take something apart and see how it works are still looking to optimize it in much the same way that "Crushers" wish to. Often, it's the Tinkerer's tinkering that puts the weapon in the hand of the Crusher. The end result is the same. The message is the same: I won because your team is not optimized like mine.

Also, how many Tinkerers actually exist? How many have you encountered here on the Realms, and how many have you met in tournaments?

The fact that you say you have never encountered a PWNZR/Sirlin/Sun Tzu disciple outside of that other forum and VGA when I see more of them than the opposite, indicates to me that it's possible to have very different experiences both online and in real life when it comes to playing Clix.

Maybe you've encountered more Tinkerers than Crushers, but that sure as hell hasn't been my experience.

I just wish I'd encounter more Gamers.

That's not what I said at all. There are certainly a few Spikes/ "play to win" types on this forum.

What I did say is that I don't see them telling other people they're "wrong" or "not really playing HeroClix" for not having the same approach.

There's a difference between saying, "My play style is valid," and saying, "your play style is invalid." That's what I've been trying to get across for the past several pages, and I think I'm pretty much out of ways to say it.

I never said "invalid" either.

Again, I've TOTALLY seen that from several Crushers, not only on this forum and in relation to this game, but other games as well. Hell, I think I've seen that exact verbage.

Like I said, I think I've pretty much run out of ways to try to explain my position. I'm done.