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Hello so I have a question if I Mind Control Thane to use Running Shot would I be able to use his Traited Pulse Wave?
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INHUMAN HEALER: Thane can use Support. When he does he and/or the target may be adjacent to an opposing character. Once per game, Thane can use Pulse Wave as a free action. When you do, he can't use Support for the rest of the game.
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Mind COntrol: Give this character a close or ranged combat action (minimum range value 4) that deals no damage. A successfully hit target becomes friendly to your force. Each target hit may be assigned one action as a free action, immediately after which the target becomes an opposing character again. Deal this character 1 unavoidable damage if the successfully hit targets’ combined point value is 150 points or more.
I'm not sure about the order you are suggesting in the title (MC+RS+PW) but you can certainly use both Mind Control and PW in the same turn.
Running shot grants a free ranged combat action. Mind Control grants either a close or ranged combat action. So you can absolutely RS+MC. Then, once actions resolve, you can activate the free PW from Thane's trait.
I'm not sure about the order you are suggesting in the title (MC+RS+PW) but you can certainly use both Mind Control and PW in the same turn.
Running shot grants a free ranged combat action. Mind Control grants either a close or ranged combat action. So you can absolutely RS+MC. Then, once actions resolve, you can activate the free PW from Thane's trait.
I am sugesting that another character manages to MC Thane. so MC -> RS -> PW.
If another character where to MC Thane then no, as he can only use Pulse Wave as a free action, and not during Running Shot. Mind Control gives you only one action as a free action, even if it's another free action.
so a fun way to mess with an opponent's team if they are running thane, is to mind control him and use pulsewave. that way he can't use support for the rest of the game. Am I understanding this correctly?
If a game effect allows you to perform a specific power or ability as a
free action, then that effect is not considered to be the type of action
which would normally be given.
so a fun way to mess with an opponent's team if they are running thane, is to mind control him and use pulsewave. that way he can't use support for the rest of the game. Am I understanding this correctly?
I believe if you use MC on Thane and use PW the Support restriction would apply to the Mind Controller only.
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I suspect that WK will probably declare that so, but the game text doesn't support it. Remember, that the Mind Control "per Controller" stuff stems from this text:
Player's Guide II, page 2:
When a character is affected by Mind Control, any of its powers previously countered remain countered. Powers and abilities that may only be used once per turn, round, or game may be used accordingly per Mind Controller.
Thane's situation isn't really covered by that text.
If Thane were Mind controlled to use his PW would he no longer be able to PW ??
He would still be able to use PW unless he had allready used it. He just would not be able to not use PW again while being Mind Controlled again by the same character.
Player's Guide section 02 page 1:
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When a character is affected by Mind Control, any of its powers previously countered rem ain countered. Powers and abilities that may only be used once per turn, round, or game may be used accordingly per Mind Controller.