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It's awesome they didn't limit her to a standard power! Come on stop clicks! ;)
Stop clicks say "When this power is revealed on the dial" So stealing a stop click power would be pointless, granted some of the stop click powers that allow a figure swap could be funny
I was thinking along the lines of the Weaponer, and his Life ability:
LIFE: The Weaponer of Qward can use Regeneration. When turning the dial, if this click is revealed due to damage taken from an opposing character, stop turning the dial. This power can't be ignored.
Technically, if she copied this power, she'd be able to use it (and still possess it) for each click, or am I wrong?
I was thinking along the lines of the Weaponer, and his Life ability:
LIFE: The Weaponer of Qward can use Regeneration. When turning the dial, if this click is revealed due to damage taken from an opposing character, stop turning the dial. This power can't be ignored.
Technically, if she copied this power, she'd be able to use it (and still possess it) for each click, or am I wrong?
I believe you are right. When she is using a power from an external source, it's like she has it on every click so it would kick in each time she takes damage.
On the other hand, I'm thinking of the FI Iron Man... "MIGHTY ARMOR: Iron Man can use Impervious but reduces damage to zero on a result of 4-6. When Iron Man is targeted with Penetrating/Psychic Blast damage to him is not penetrating. This power can't be countered." No, not quite a stop-click, but you have a 50/50 chance of taking no damage, it's showing on his first click, AND you can't take penetrating from PB. At least this way, you wouldn't have to wait for the click to show up. ;)
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????
Awesome, the way some stop clicks are worded I understand, but others (like the Weaponers) really open up possibilities. Imagine, Omega Level Mutant from Hope... etc!!
About her and Weaponer, I'm not sure she can use the stop click because it is never revealed. It's always on, like a trait would be. She would lose it if it were outwitted, but I don't believe it is ever considered revealed. Just my two cents.
She's not the definitive Rogue I was hoping for when I heard they were making her, but after playing her she performs very well. The sidestep really makes her. The options to Charge for 7, Carry for 9, break away without using an action, move when she has a token on her already etc give her the utility and mobility a 0 range brawler like her needs.
The power absorption ability isn't the most useful iteration we've seen, but for her low cost, it's a neat bonus. I'm very happy to finally see 4 damage on a Rogue, and consistent 3 damage with super strength or Exploit. She can certainly dish it out and for just 99 points can either be backed up with plenty of support or be a devastating secondary attacker.
Hit your target with Mind Control or Incapacitate, if you want to borrow its current DV (and not deal damage). Or, throw an Ultra Light Object, if your target would reduce damage. Ion, or Predator's "Power of Love" is just what she needs...
Last edited by spider_ham; 02/21/2015 at 02:29..
Reason: fixes
Yesterday I hit Kyle Rayner and steal this from him:
ION: When this click is revealed due to an opponent's attack, stop turning the dial. Kyle Rayner can use Impervious and the Quintessence team ability. This power can't be ignored.
I use his stop clix evevry time a new clix was reveal , she clean the map.
Rogue would be a glorious thing if she could swipe AAOU Hulk's defense power that's a stop click on top of a full clear.
I thought that it was ruled that stop-clicks only worked "when revealed" and didn't work when other figures were copying them. :-\
-Heroclix is not a game of logic, it's a game of strategy .... after all, when's the last time that you saw a giant (using a stealth ability) that was hiding behind a swingset... and nobody could SEE him????
I thought that it was ruled that stop-clicks only worked "when revealed" and didn't work when other figures were copying them. :-\
can you show me where that is? I can't find that ruling.
Also given the wording of her stealing a value power "...This effect lasts until she chooses to replace her values again." could she keep that value and power even after she is hit past that ability since she won't replace her values again?
For me, this is a definitive Rogue to date.
Her mutant power to steal the power of someone she touches only effects if she 'touches' them which is pretty accurate and she's the leather jacket wearing look, which is the one I'm fond of.
She has keywords for the teams she has been a part of. My only mini gripe is the lack 'stolen' range but she is primarily a brawler, so I can make my peace with that easily.
I do have a couple of queries though:
1) if she takes a power and a stat e.g. Invul & 19 shield and her dial goes down from damage taken, I presume she retains the 19 shield?
2) Can she take Indom and Sharpshooter?